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    Weight differences are pretty negligible. The balance of the gun will have more of an effect on the perceived weight.

    So if you hang a bunch of stuff on the rail, a heavier stock set up tends to balance it out.
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    Robs has a rail chart too. Both my SBRs now wear MOE handguards they what I need for less ylthan $100 total.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    POF, LWRC SBR's also.

    You said HD situation. Keep in mind that a 10.5 or 11.5 barrel is going to be extremely loud with a concussion and flash. If you wake up and shoot a BG you will be hard of hearing for a while and maybe some hearing loss. A better trade than death but you could also choose a different weapon and/or a suppressor. I thought about the same thing. Check some youtube on the differences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawmaker View Post
    You said HD situation. Keep in mind that a 10.5 or 11.5 barrel is going to be extremely loud with a concussion and flash. If you wake up and shoot a BG you will be hard of hearing for a while and maybe some hearing loss. A better trade than death but you could also choose a different weapon and/or a suppressor.
    Grossman's ON COMBAT provides evidence that contradicts all of these old beliefs.

    I'm not going to flat out say you're wrong... but there's real world accounts and evidence that contradicts what you're saying.

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    Longer barrel will be quieter with less flash and recoil.

    SBR's are loud and obnoxious. Ever been next to one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Grossman's ON COMBAT provides evidence that contradicts all of these old beliefs.

    I'm not going to flat out say you're wrong... but there's real world accounts and evidence that contradicts what you're saying.

    (It's a good book too )
    I will back up your statement on the issue based upon experience. In the moment, the mind and body finds ways to protect itself and stay in the fight. Non issue regarding SBR sound from me.

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    A rifle is going to be LOUD any way you cut it; especially indoors.

    I am not worried about it. I am worried about saving lives.

    If a suppressor is an option run with it. It is not an option for me in VT. There may be info out there comparing 16" vs. 11" noise or concussion. It's a lot more fun being behind the SBR than next to it but in a self defense situation I do not realistically think more than a few shots will be fired. Even if it's 20 or 30 you will be ok.
    We can play what if all day, it’s not going to change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawmaker View Post
    Longer barrel will be quieter with less flash and recoil.

    SBR's are loud and obnoxious. Ever been next to one?
    Yes. There's no question that a shorter barrel is louder. Flash and recoild are of negligible difference however.

    Not sure who you're asking, but I have been next to them. I even own them. And I deploy an 11.5 SBR with no silencer for Home Defense.
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    I am not knocking the SBR HD. Just wanted to provide some info for the guy researching it. Hey it might do double duty. Shoot one BG and blow the eardrums off the guy next to him.
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    Thanks again to all who posted replies to this thread. I am not too terribly concerned about the noise but keep a pair of Peltor ComTac headphones in my nightstand for the scenario where I have to check out a "strange noise in the house". Might be a long shot that an adversary will allow me the time to don them but their ability to amplify sounds is potentially a pretty big tactical advantage.
    In my experience the noise of your weapon or your team mates weapon firing isn't that big of a deal although a Para Saw being fired inside an up armored vehicle will startle the hell out of you if the operator fails to holler "engaging", no joy.
    Does anybody else keep a pair of Peltor's nearby, or I am the only one on this board that prepared (err.. paranoid)?

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