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Thread: Alternative to standard handguards which will still fit in patrol car rack

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    We have the same problem at work. No money to change to better locks. We use a side mount like the one above. I have a barrel mount from Zahal on my Mini 14 which I would use on an AR if the chief let me bring one to work. I may have gotten one of the last ones out there because it's not there.

    This might work if you want to mount the light on top of the barrel like LAV. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...6Q4NPRHQC7N05D

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    Is the gun lock one of these?

    http://www.santacruzgunlocks.com/



    If so, then I know that it won't fit around a Larue quad with XTM rail panels iirc. I had one mounted to my wall into a stud and I believe that I could only get it around the D-ring of the rain, but I am not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nimdabew View Post
    Is the gun lock one of these?

    http://www.santacruzgunlocks.com/



    If so, then I know that it won't fit around a Larue quad with XTM rail panels iirc. I had one mounted to my wall into a stud and I believe that I could only get it around the D-ring of the rain, but I am not sure.
    Those are on our PD's short list to replace our current racks. What will they fit? Or if it is easier what doesn't it fit?
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    Those are the Santa Cruz SC-5 locks. They are the only way to fly in my opinion. I'm not crazy about the Santa Cruz racks - I have a custom fabricated rack in my patrol rig, with the SC-5's mounted so that they can adjust up/down several inches.

    Not only will they fit around all kinds of fore-ends, but since I spend a lot of time off-road it's nice that they can cinch down real tight to prevent rattling of the guns.

    Deployment may be slightly slower than some, as once the lock is released I find that I have to manually open the pivoting bar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Deciding what handguards you are gong to use based on how they fit in a rack is flawed logic.

    I would look at modifiying the rack.
    As another poster has already deduced, this is a personal rifle in a department vehicle. Modifications or changes to the rack itself is not an option, otherwise I wouldn't have posted the question I did. Everyone else, thanks for all the helpful advice instead of immediately assuming I'm a moron.

    Unfortunately, it isn't a variable loop like the Santa Cruz others posted, just a solid circular loop with a single hinge. Can't find a good picture online or take a picture myself right now, but this is what the system looks like:

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    We run Big Sky racks and a similar knock off in our squad cars. With regular hand guards the best solution I found was running a flashlight on a FSB mount.

    http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...ategory%3DMIND

    I've also used a Surefire barrel clamp it was functional but the shadow was pretty bad.

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    This may not be the most popular rail out there, but it does allow some flexibility in locating a light.

    http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/product256.html



    They also have a free float rail with 5 different sizes to accomodate your specific shooting needs.

    http://yankeehillmachine.com/store/forearms.html
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    I think I know where you are located. I may be able to assist. Someone up that way purchased an AR from me with the Troy TRX rails on it.

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    I live in the boonies three hours away from Phoenix, and I don't think anyone in my area has them... I won't be able to test anything until I buy it, so I'll have to use someone with a really good return policy just in case.



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    Toaster, I would advice to stay away from keeping your AR in the squad cars rack if at all possible. I dont know about your dept, but my dept doesnt have asigned squad cars. Therefore we get a diferent car every day. I have seen rifle racks working just fine at begining of shift and just stop working randomly. I have seen plenty officers having to resort to using their handguns were a patrol rifle deployment would have been authorized due to their racks release not working.

    What I do is keep my rifle in the trunk, yes I know, its an extra step, but better safe than sorry. I have trained my self to simply pull over when ever I hear an armed encounter or w/e high pri call comes out, get my rifle from the trunk, and put it on the passenger seat. If I ride 2 man, I have my partner hold it for me. Then we haul *** to the call. When the calls over with we lock it back in the trunk.
    Last edited by OTO27; 03-26-11 at 12:46.

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    I mounted a Midwest Industries rail for the front sight on my father's Colt 6520, and it's working very well. Does not upset the balance of the carbine.



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