Condition Three carry = fail

**QuietShootr** · 03-28-11, 15:03

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=086_1260862712

Again.

**6933** · 03-28-11, 15:06

Poor guy. Shot and kicked. Shitty way to go. Looks like it was probably in front of family.

**B Cart** · 03-28-11, 15:09

Carrying a weapon without a bullet in the chamber is pointless. You'd have a faster and more effective defense with a bat. Too bad this guy spent those precious seconds trying to get a round in the chamber, when he could have used those seconds to neutralize the threat had he been carrying loaded. Unfortunately for him, the mistake cost him his life.

**zacbol** · 03-28-11, 20:45

Wow. That was painful to watch.

As for carrying without a round chambered, the Israelis seem to make it work. I'm sure they train the shit out of the movement, though, and I guarantee it's still less than optimal. This guy definitely didn't train (or he needed to train a lot more) and sadly he paid with his life.

He would have been better with no gun at all as no one else appears to have been shot. He basically just told the robbers to shoot him.

**Thomas M-4** · 03-28-11, 21:35

Looked like to me he was hit at least twice before he even got to the pistol.

**MP9** · 03-28-11, 22:23

um, it seem that the BG were directly to the man.. so maybe they got some problems before..

Wasnt there any round in the chamber or it was but the gun jammed and he try to rack to get a round in the chamber?

**pmarc** · 04-05-11, 14:35

Originally Posted by zacbol

As for carrying without a round chambered, the Israelis seem to make it work. I'm sure they train the shit out of the movement, though, and I guarantee it's still less than optimal.

sorry to hijack, but, wasn't the israely carry method created do overcome non functional/non reliable safeties on surplus handguns of then Hagana?

However I have not find any evidence of that anecdote being true.

**Littlelebowski** · 04-05-11, 15:03

Originally Posted by pmarc

sorry to hijack, but, wasn't the israely carry method created do overcome non functional/non reliable safeties on surplus handguns of then Hagana?

However I have not find any evidence of that anecdote being true.

It was taught for the lowest common denominator. So many folks carrying without decent training.

**SteyrAUG** · 04-05-11, 15:41

When I was younger and new to regular carry I used to do this. Did it right up until the first time I had to actually draw my weapon in response to a threat. Thankfully the situation was resolved by other factors and I was able to learn from it.