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    Range fees

    One of the local indoor ranges insists that any rifles shot in their facility use ammo purchased from the range.

    Is this common around the country?? The owner says he wants to maximize his profit, "Why should I allow people to use ammo purchased at Wal-Mart or Online"? He charges over $ 10.00 for a box of Federal XM193. I pay around $7.00 a box, sometimes less.

    My opinion is why should I maximize his profit while maximizing my cost. I pay what he asks for use of the range ( $13.00) and he is entitled to a profit on that. I also purchase supplies from him or his other range/store. I do not owe him anything.

    Hand guns are allowed to use any ammo as long as there is no steel,that is understandable. I do not see where rifles are any different. He says he wants to protect his back stops, also understandable. It would also be understandable if they banned certain ammo that is destructive to his backstops,but I use the exact same ammo that he sells.

    Is this a common practice around the country? Am I missing something? I think it is poor customer relations and will not be using his ranges for rifle. Oh yes, he has a nice clean facility, and the same lanes that cost 13.00 per 1/2 hour for rifle are $ 9.00 or $10.00 per half hour for handgun. Is this a common practice elsewhere?? Same lane same everything.

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    Some ranges do, some don't It's a free country and he can't do whatever he wants. You can choose to shoot there or not.

    This is why I drive out to BFE and shoot in the open.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Some ranges do, some don't It's a free country and he can't do whatever he wants. You can choose to shoot there or not.

    This is why I drive out to BFE and shoot in the open.
    I live in BFE, so all I have to do is drive a mile or two to get away from the buildings here....
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    both indoor ranges in my area have that same policy, and both have the same explanation (which makes sense to me; true or not). what they said was that rifles bullets beat up the backstop a lot more than handgun bullets, which is true. each rifle round fired there causes many more times more damage to the backstop than each handgun round. by only allowing people to fire ammo purchased there, it reduces the amount of rifle ammo shot at the backstop, and the extra revenue helps offset the damage that the rifle ammo does.
    they both said 'we could always prohibit centerfire rifles altogether, but we wanted to still allow people to function test etc, try out their new rifles'. some indoor ranges flat out don't allow rifles.

    to me, it's not much different than not being allowed to bring your own booze into a bar. it's a business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    You can choose to shoot there or not.
    Obviously, but I am curious if this is a common practice. Don't get me wrong, I do not mind paying for value received, but do not like the feeling of being taken advantage of.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    This is why I drive out to BFE and shoot in the open.
    I don't have a BFE nearby.

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    I can drink my own booze at home, but I can't exactly shoot my weapons at home...

    My local indoor range only asks to shoot their ammo if you're going to rent their guns. Otherwise, you can shoot whatever you want.
    If you're in range, so are they...

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    When I lived in Denver, the indoor ranges had just started to make you use ammo you bought there. I chose not to use the ranges. If I were in a place that had those kind of rules, and it was the only convenient place to shoot, I would shoot much less than I do now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    what they said was that rifles bullets beat up the backstop a lot more than handgun bullets, which is true. each rifle round fired there causes many more times more damage to the backstop than each handgun round.
    My answer to that is: "that is why they charge more to shoot rifles than handguns." I understand and agree with the thinking.

    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post

    to me, it's not much different than not being allowed to bring your own booze into a bar.
    In some localities you must bring your own liquor, but they charge you for "set-ups". In other localities (Chicago is one) you may bring your own wine, they want your dinner business.

    Quote Originally Posted by militarymoron View Post
    it's a business.
    Absolutely, but a good business nurtures the regular customer, it does not take advantage of them. A good business man would, perhaps, raise his rifle range fee somewhat and still make the profit. Another range in the area charges more for range usage, allows your own ammo, but reserves the right to examine what you are using. That makes sense to me, and that is probably where I will be headed the next time I want to fire my M4 or shotgun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Some ranges do, some don't It's a free country and he can't do whatever he wants. You can choose to shoot there or not.

    This is why I drive out to BFE and shoot in the open.
    +100 on BFE

    I avoid all the local ranges because all the rules they stick in make it not worth my while. I want training value to my shooting and the s l o w - f i r e rules, no slung weapon rules, etc etc etc make it not worth while.

    If I did not have BFE anywhere to drive out to I would obviously have to re-think this. (And try to move )

    Good luck to the OP. Maybe the guy will get a clue when you stop shooting at his range and head to his competitor's place.
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    This was the norm here in FL as well. However we all wised up and started driving out of our way to prove a point. once they started losing our business they all of a sudden decided that we could bring our own ammo again. I think its bad business but they certainly have the right to do it. Wouldn't mind as much but they also have a history of gouging on every thing. 17.99 for a box of 50 9mm reloads was pretty ridiculous. 600 dollar glocks are just damned retarded.

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