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    I have not had to notarize when my Schedule A when I have added new items and BATFE has approved it every time.

    I am just using my state as an example.

    A trust also makes it easy if you want other to have access to your stuff when you aren't around.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    I recommend a CLEO signature if you can get one. You don't have to upkeep anything on a yearly basis.

    Also, if your state requires it, the schedule A for a trust must be notarized every time you update it (every time you buy a new gun with the trust). So you now have to take this to your bank or some other business to get this notarized, and now they get to look at a list of your NFA weapons which I don't like. I also don't recommend you notarize your own schedule A.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I have not had to notarize when my Schedule A when I have added new items and BATFE has approved it every time.

    I am just using my state as an example.

    A trust also makes it easy if you want other to have access to your stuff when you aren't around.
    Speaking of, that brings me to another question.

    I know that the rules stipulate that I must be in control of the NFA weapon at all times.....so lets say I have a two month rotation at a hospital in Arkansas (Im in TX, so the SBR cant follow me there) what do I do? Can I leave it at home? Sure its in a safe, but what about the wife? Is she then in posession of the SBR illegaly? I searched various sites earlier but couldnt get a clear answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydkristmas View Post
    Speaking of, that brings me to another question.

    I know that the rules stipulate that I must be in control of the NFA weapon at all times.....so lets say I have a two month rotation at a hospital in Arkansas (Im in TX, so the SBR cant follow me there) what do I do? Can I leave it at home? Sure its in a safe, but what about the wife? Is she then in posession of the SBR illegaly? I searched various sites earlier but couldnt get a clear answer.
    I would always recommend owning title-2 firearms individually if you can get a signature. The only time I would advocate doing otherwise is if you have multiple family members who you want to be able to shoot/use/have control of. And in that case I would go with an LLC or corporation where you can list those multiple people as members of the LLC or corporation. I own most of my title-2 stuff individually (have been very fortunate with CLEO signatures), but also have an LLC in Florida where my family owns a few MGs and SBRs so that my dad and brother may also take them to the range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lloydkristmas View Post
    Speaking of, that brings me to another question.

    I know that the rules stipulate that I must be in control of the NFA weapon at all times.....so lets say I have a two month rotation at a hospital in Arkansas (Im in TX, so the SBR cant follow me there) what do I do? Can I leave it at home? Sure its in a safe, but what about the wife? Is she then in posession of the SBR illegaly? I searched various sites earlier but couldnt get a clear answer.
    Speaking of your hospital rotations, are you a medical student or resident?

    Your SBR can accompany you with a 5320.20 to any state that allows title-2 firearm ownership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I have not had to notarize when my Schedule A when I have added new items and BATFE has approved it every time.

    I am just using my state as an example.

    A trust also makes it easy if you want other to have access to your stuff when you aren't around.
    Same here... The first time I added an NFA item I went down and had the Trust RE-notorized....

    I felt like a tard when I figgered out that I could just update the Sch. A and send it to ATF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshNC View Post
    Speaking of your hospital rotations, are you a medical student or resident?

    Your SBR can accompany you with a 5320.20 to any state that allows title-2 firearm ownership.
    Im in Physical Therapy school.

    Im not sure if Arkansas does SBRs, but even if they did, I'll be staying in a house with several other students that is provided by the hospital, not the best place to store an NFA weapon for 2 months...

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    Someone else addressed it so....... File the form for the states where you know it is legal and will be traveling.

    If it is locked up and cannot be accessed by anyone else while you are away AFAIK you are golden. If you have a trust and she is on it, then you are covered.

    Quote Originally Posted by lloydkristmas View Post
    Speaking of, that brings me to another question.

    I know that the rules stipulate that I must be in control of the NFA weapon at all times.....so lets say I have a two month rotation at a hospital in Arkansas (Im in TX, so the SBR cant follow me there) what do I do? Can I leave it at home? Sure its in a safe, but what about the wife? Is she then in posession of the SBR illegaly? I searched various sites earlier but couldnt get a clear answer.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Someone else addressed it so....... File the form for the states where you know it is legal and will be traveling.

    If it is locked up and cannot be accessed by anyone else while you are away AFAIK you are golden. If you have a trust and she is on it, then you are covered.
    Excellent this is what i needed to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    Same here... The first time I added an NFA item I went down and had the Trust RE-notorized....

    I felt like a tard when I figgered out that I could just update the Sch. A and send it to ATF.
    Will they accept that? The last time I talked to a BATFE examiner they wanted the complete trust document.
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    You took this out of context. He sends the ENTIRE trust again with the new Schedule A. But, he doesn't get it notarized again. Neither have I and it has been approved every time.

    Quote Originally Posted by g5m View Post
    Will they accept that? The last time I talked to a BATFE examiner they wanted the complete trust document.



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