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    Quote Originally Posted by fuse View Post
    I wonder if the fine folks at Navy legal would do this for me..
    If they do Living Trusts, then an "NFA" trust would just be a slightly modified version. Have them do both for you. One for the NFA stuff and one for everything else. Trusts trump wills in many ways.

    The difference would be in the schedule for "shared property placed in Trust". That's were the info. about NFA weapons is spelled out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darr3239 View Post
    If they do Living Trusts, then an "NFA" trust would just be a slightly modified version. Have them do both for you. One for the NFA stuff and one for everything else. Trusts trump wills in many ways.

    The difference would be in the schedule for "shared property placed in Trust". That's were the info. about NFA weapons is spelled out.
    I may check it out then.

    I have obtained quicken willmaker, but seems like it would be awesome having an actual lawyer do it for free. if not, quicken for me.


    also, all I really need for them is the serial number of the can, right? because I just got that the other day

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    That's a good idea Fuse. I've been thinking going the trust route to a) protect my parents as the rifle(s) would be kept at their house and b) be able to register it while not actually in the country (I think that's possible, right?) Seeing as I have no idea how to do legal documents, it would be nice to get some help when making a trust and free is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuse View Post
    I may check it out then.

    I have obtained quicken willmaker, but seems like it would be awesome having an actual lawyer do it for free. if not, quicken for me.


    also, all I really need for them is the serial number of the can, right? because I just got that the other day
    Use those legal people for everything you can while you are in. They can do it without serial numbers, or any specific info. on the weapon. You can add an addendum to the trust, listing the weapon specifically,once you have your NFA paperwork, and modify it with each new purchase or sale.
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    I did my trust through David Goldman (Guntrustlawyer.com). Got it for $500, he was running a "special." While I wasn't too thrilled with dropping that much money I like having the peace of mind that it's all squared away and he basically "warranties" the trust if some crap happens like in this scenario: http://blog.princelaw.com/2009/4/20/...nvalid-u-trust

    You never know when the government is going to pull some crap, especially under the current regime.

    As far as it being a "Gun Trust," like someone said earlier, it's a Revocable Trust, there's no such thing as a "Gun Trust." The difference is that the trust through Goldman and his affiliates throughout the country has specific NFA language throughout it that assures the assets (firearms) are handled properly in case of your death or incapacitation.

    If you can find another attorney to do it for cheaper, go for it.

    One thing I wouldn't do would be getting a trust done up through a gun store. There are many gun stores throughout the country doing this and it's a dumb idea. I was offered this from the store I buy all of my AR stuff from, for around 50 bucs. I almost did it, hell of a price. But they use Quicken Willmaker, so If I was going to do that, I would just buy the damn program. First of all it's technically illegal for them to offer legal services (practice law) without a license. Secondly, they would only put one trustee and said I would have to have one added later by a lawyer, so why not go through an attorney in the first place.

    I felt like $500 was worth it. I know that my family, career, and firearms are protected.

    I almost went the CLEO/Fingerprint route, but then the government can come get my guns if something happens to me. Yeah I'll be dead, but screw them, they aren't taking my guns.

    My overall opinion is that it's friggin retarded that I need to register a rifle that is 4.5 or 5.5 inches shorter than one I don't have to register, especially when I don't have to register an AR pistol that accomplishes the same goal just without a stock and is shorter. But I'm preaching to the choir.
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    Can someone who has had a trust drawn up in Florida recommend a lawyer other then guntrustlawyer.com?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madisonsfinest View Post
    Did you shop around at all? I think a lot of gun stores could have given you some suggestions on what attorneys to use. My friend just got his done for $200.00 here in WI. Got his accepted by the BATF and now has two cans, and a 10.5 LWRC
    not all trusts are equal, and some are completely unacceptable "legally" I am told when it comes to NFA.

    the $600 is CHEAP insurance for something done right.

    would you trust your Ferrari to the corner gas station mechanic?

    sure he may do great work on Buick and Fords and if that's good enough for you, then I guess that's all that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luckyguy1 View Post
    not all trusts are equal, and some are completely unacceptable "legally" I am told when it comes to NFA.

    the $600 is CHEAP insurance for something done right.

    would you trust your Ferrari to the corner gas station mechanic?

    sure he may do great work on Buick and Fords and if that's good enough for you, then I guess that's all that matters.
    I think an attorney doing trusts can do a firearms trust quite easily. I don't see the comparison between a Ford/Buick mechanic and a Ferrari mechanic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corse View Post
    Can someone who has had a trust drawn up in Florida recommend a lawyer other then guntrustlawyer.com?
    PM me for info, I highly recommend Bob Howell and he's cheaper than gun trust lawyer.
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    My father and I used...

    ...David Goldman as well.

    Actually, he, myself AND my brother in law are all co-trustees.

    yeah, you can use Quicken; however, guess what happens when you die and your daughter, grandson, friend, etc. inherets the weapon and the trust wasn't designed specifically for NFA items?

    they're most likely going to be in possession of said item illegally.

    for the here and now, everthing's fine and dandy. when you're dead, it's not.

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