Leupold 1x14 Prismatic?

[armakraut]

If they had kept the circle dot reticle, I would have bought one.

[Singlestack Wonder]

Any chance you could should a pic of the illuminated reticule?

[jasonhgross]

I discussed this scope with a Leupold rep about a year ago. When I asked about battery life and heard the forthcoming response, I just thanked him and walked away.

[Canonshooter]

I discussed this scope with a Leupold rep about a year ago. When I asked about battery life and heard the forthcoming response, I just thanked him and walked away.

The Prismatic is not a RDS. For a RDS, battery life is a major consideration because;

1. You need to turn it on to even use it
2. If you forget to turn it off before putting it away and then need to get it in action quickly some time later, you could end up with a dead battery and a useless sight

For the Prismatic, battery life is not a major consideration because;

1. You don't have to turn it on to use it
2. The only time you have to turn it on is in low-light conditions

So, unless you do most of your shooting in low/no light condtions, who cares?

[jasonhgross]

The Prismatic is not a RDS. For a RDS, battery life is a major consideration because;

1. You need to turn it on to even use it
2. If you forget to turn it off before putting it away and then need to get it in action quickly some time later, you could end up with a dead battery and a useless sight

For the Prismatic, battery life is not a major consideration because;

1. You don't have to turn it on to use it
2. The only time you have to turn it on is in low-light conditions

So, unless you do most of your shooting in low/no light condtions, who cares?

I dont know what light my shooting will have to be in given unknowable circumstances. So battery life is an issue. If I was ok with an optic that only had 15 hours battery life, in trade for that negative I would want to pick up a positive to balance it out. Say magnification. Once again, the prismatic has no value over an aimpoint or even an eotech.

[jmart]

15 hour battery life is for the highest setting. The only time you would use the highest setting is when there's a lot of daylight, at which point the reticule is entirely visible. I guess it comes down to how important you feel illumination, even in broad daylight, is.

In low light scenarios, you only need to illuminate the reticule with low power settings, and at these settings the life is much better than 15 hours.

I wouldn't want want one if my mission were to patrol the streets of Iraq/Afg, but for a homeowner this level of battery life would be entirely satisfactory. Match the gear to the mission.

[jasonhgross]

I dunno, but maybe its just me, I'll take 50,000 hours of battery life in my aimpoint over 15.

[Canonshooter]

My new BCM upper (16" mid length, SS410 barrel, LaRue 12") showed up yesterday and I had the opportunity to put all the parts and pieces together on my lower, including mounting the Prismatic.

Having the optic mounted on the rifle I was able to verify my previous impressions; the FOV is HUGE compared to the Aimpoint, the view through the Prismatic is very noticeably sharper, clearer and much brighter. Due the high light transmission through the optic, the reticle is sharp and easy to see in both bright light and at even at lower light levels toward the end of the day without the illumination turned on. The reticle illumination at a very low setting made the reticle clearly visible from that point on, up to the time that night vision (or white light) would be required to discern the target.

In bright daylight, the illumination can be turned high enough to fully illuminate the reticle. However, to my eyes the recticle appears sharper and just as easy to see with the illumination turned off under these conditions.

Since I perfer the "nose-to-charging-handle" hold, after some experimentation the Prismatic ended up mounted further forward than I expected. In fact, due to its long eye relief, it's mounted far enough forward that I can deploy the rear BUIS (Troy) which co-witnesses through the Prismatic. I'm not certain at this point if there's any utility in doing so, but I'll have a better idea this weekend when I spend some time at the range sighting-in and trying out the new upper.

In the mean time, I remain an Aimpoint user too (see photos below). This will give me a good opportunity to objectively compare the two sights and further elaborate on any advantages the Prismatic may offer. I'll take some photos of the new set-up this weekend and post them here, along with my initial range results.

Krebs Custom AK103k, CompC3 mounted on Ultimak, lower 1/3 co-witness with irons;

[CJFirefly]

If possible please post a pic of your prismatic on the BCM SS410 upper. A lot of people shit on this optic and I can understand their qualms. I kind of think all these people are blessed with perfect vision however. I have two of them and appreciate them for what they are. My eyes suck and I have astigmatism, and I don't like relying on my prescription glasses to get a perfect view from my Aimpoints. The adjustable eyepiece of the prismatic fixes this. Plus they are fairly lightweight and seem rugged.

[sff70]

With Aimpoints I see several dots, not just one.

For targets 25 yds and closer, no big deal.

For targets farther away, I know which dot is the "real" dot, so no big deal.

At a recent match, wearing full gear, I made a shot on a A/B/C zone sized steel silhouette target at 125 yards with a Comp ML2 on my 6920. Start position was low ready, and I fired standing. It was a first round hit, fired in about 2 sec from the start signal.

My astigmatism may not be as bad as yours, but Aimpoints flat out work for me (I used to be an EO guy), and have none of the cons of the Leupy prismatic.

I NEVER turn my Aimpoints off. There are no eye relief or cheek weld issues, and no parallax issues. And since they are mounted with LT mounts, and have no return to zero issues, unlike a prismatic used in recent EAG Tactical class.

FWIW