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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDiver06 View Post
    I run an H2 in mine and I'm pleased, but then again I almost exclusively use XM855 and .223 TAP.
    I had pretty good success with the H2 as well. We even ran an H3 in it when it was new. But if I wanted to ensure reliable function when dirty/dry, etc... I'd probably just run an H buffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markm View Post
    I had pretty good success with the H2 as well. We even ran an H3 in it when it was new. But if I wanted to ensure reliable function when dirty/dry, etc... I'd probably just run an H buffer.
    I'll be sure to give an H buffer a try.
    But would you say I'd be good with an H2 considering my 14.5 middy can run with a 4.3oz buffer, m16 carrier, and a red springco spring? Albeit, the brass ejects at like a foot and a half at 5 o'clock but it still runs.

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    Another good question would be... is all this ejection
    pattern stuff that's talked about on other forums nonsense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDiver06 View Post
    Another good question would be... is all this ejection
    pattern stuff that's talked about on other forums nonsense?
    No. But it's only a piece of the puzzle. It can be a good indicator of what the gun is doing, but some folks with just enough info to be dangerous start messing with shit on their gun based on that ****ing retarded MS paint clock chart thing that you see posted every so often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDiver06 View Post
    Another good question would be... is all this ejection
    pattern stuff that's talked about on other forums nonsense?
    This has been discussed recently here:
    http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?...notebook+range
    And is a perfect example of what MarkM is talking about--and yes, this link also has that MS Paint clock chart in it too.
    Last edited by Cincinnatus; 05-10-11 at 12:47.

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    I shoot match reloads through my lightweight 14.5 middy. It shoots great. I havent tried any cheap steel or lacquer coated stuff, and I doubt I ever will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicious_cb View Post
    Thats not what I was saying at all. Im saying a carbine gas system on 14.5" at higher pressure is going to have a higher BCG velocity thus it might be less susceptible to a stoppage when filthy and sandy but the downside is that the bolt unlocks sooner resulting in harsher extraction. Nothing to do with the chamber being dirty just pointing out a possible upside vs downside.

    Compare this to a 14.5" middy with lower pressures where slower bolt velocity MIGHT make it more susceptible to stoppage when used in filthy/sandy conditions but has a very smooth delayed extraction.
    Yeah that's what i was saying too. My point was that as long as the timing is ok the harsher extraction shouldn't actually result in a failed extraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Careful, I've suggested this before and nearly got myself lynched.
    I've made that case as well

    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Do you feel that you're reached the limitation of your gun as-is and have a specific goal in changing it? If so, is there something you hope to gain by using an un-tested combination of buffer and carrier?

    This site is full of guys like me that are shooting 14.5" mid-length guns with Wolf & Brown Bear without issue when using an M16 carrier and an H buffer and GI spring. If you want to cycle that ammo my suggestion would be to stick with a known-good combination until you have a perceived advantage or gain in fiddling with it.
    I certainly haven't met my limit with it as is. The persons I shot said his won't cycle any russian steel and haven't really researched what combos work. It was just an idea I had but the A5 RE looks proprietary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I was probably one of the biggest skeptics of the 14.5" midlength but now I'm pretty sold, even though I still wouldn't recommend one as an only/first AR.
    Why the caveat to recommending them as an only AR?

    I would have to assume from this that you are still somewhat skeptical of their hard use reliability?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mizer67 View Post
    Why the caveat to recommending them as an only AR?
    On paper, I thought the 14.5 middy was the perfect set up. I'm less sold on that notion now that I've got a thousand plus rounds on the platform.... due to the fact that it can barely handle a rifle buffer system. And that is the bottom line test for a good upper.

    It's almost too much of a good thing with the smoothness. And with masturbators wanting to buy guns that run shit import steel cased ammo, it's hard to recommend the setup.

    If you are willing to run good ammo, it's a nice configuration.
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