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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    Yes, no, maybe, sometimes? Does CMT not have the capability to produce TDP level parts? I was under the impression that they produced everything from hobby-grade to MIL-SPEC?

    I actually am curious.
    http://www.continentalmachinetool.com/firearms.html

    I guess someone needs to call them? I always heard they provided a lot of parts for companies such as BCM etc...but that was just forum talk.

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    Nice to see I live in CT so good to see these guys doing something a little better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARPATRIOT View Post
    They should just start making ALL their guns to these specs,it's what most people want anyways.
    This is my thought exactly! However as my buddy who has over 10 years active duty just proved, some people are willing to save that hundred bucks to just have an AR. Despite everything I told him, he just bought a Stag...

    Maybe their thoughts as a company are to offer this option to stay competitive with the high end market, and see if their upgraded models sell enough to justify the increased cost in production?

    It's amazing to me that $100-200 is really a make or break point for a lot of the AR market. I'm not going to lie that I fell victim to it a bit myself, but now that I have educated myself it is unbelievable to me how much people are willing to sacrifice in a rifle to save this amount of money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdodd View Post
    I think they are trying to target two different markets.

    Market A) The casual dirt shooter, who just wants a low round count black gun. I would imagine this is a huge portion of the market.

    Market B) The informed consumer, the person looking for all the goodies that make you feel warm and fuzzy.

    2 cents,

    -J
    Just how many rifles do you guys think they sell to members of the B group compared to members of the A group? That is a rhetorical question, not needing response, and not aimed at you. And, how important do you think the TDP is to members of the A group, if they even knew what it was? The A group cares about the bottom line price and looks, period, and chances are they never visit an internet forum about their rifle. So, from a business standpoint, why not cater to both groups. Competition for the dollar is a bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdodd View Post
    http://www.continentalmachinetool.com/firearms.html

    I guess someone needs to call them? I always heard they provided a lot of parts for companies such as BCM etc...but that was just forum talk.

    -J
    I think Grant knew the answer when he asked the question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunderway View Post
    Yes, no, maybe, sometimes? Does CMT not have the capability to produce TDP level parts? I was under the impression that they produced everything from hobby-grade to MIL-SPEC?

    I actually am curious.
    They most likely have the capability (on some things), but I don't know of any mil-spec manufacturer (Colt, BCM, etc) that buy things from them any more.


    C4

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    They most likely have the capability (on some things), but I don't know of any mil-spec manufacturer (Colt, BCM, etc) that buy things from them any more.


    C4
    Gotcha. I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at in post I quoted. I thought you were insinuating that I thought everything CMT produced was MIL-SPEC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Glockster View Post
    I realize I worded my post a little strongly but I have never fallen for any company's "custom shop" nonsense. It's just an excuse to charge more for what they should do to every firearm that leaves their factory.

    It's like having to pay extra to have a car where the brakes actually work and the tires last more than 30,000 miles.
    lol...well said...
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    I guess I'll dissent and say I really don't have a problem with this.

    It's a free-market guys. As long as people want cheap, both in quality and in cost, then there will be cheap products. Some people want the Corvette, some people want the Camaro, and some can only afford the Chevette. What's the problem with Chevy offering all three?

    On the one hand, it would be nice if Stag offered a completely different model, but at the same time it's nice to see that if you like one of their standard models you can simply add this package.

    I suppose there's some danger that someone would see the answers in the new Chart and rush out to their local gunshop and say "gimme one-a them Stags" and wind up without the plus package, but then that's on them. If all you ever did was look at the Chart and blindly run out and pick up whichever one had the most Xs for the cheapest price you get what you deserve. and in truth, you'll probably never know the difference.

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    Assuming the gas key is staked correctly, does the plus package bring the Stag into line, quality-wise, with other manufacturers like Colt, Daniel Defense, LMT, etc. or are there other, more basic, problems with their guns like quality of machining or materials? Money is not the driving factor, and I'll gladly pay more if it's necessary to get a quality product, but Stag's Model 2T with the plus package seems like a reasonable value and I really like the idea of supporting a local manufacturer if the product is worthwhile.

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