Wow, that is not even a good deal. Heck I could get a way better riffle for less than what they charge for their "better" model.
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Wow, that is not even a good deal. Heck I could get a way better riffle for less than what they charge for their "better" model.
"You done good. Remember the rules of home gun smithing: Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with a torch/dremel, grind it to fit, paint it to match with a sharpie!"
If the quality is there I thought it did seem like a good value with the Samson rail system and the A.R.M.S. rear sight based on what I've found searching, but I am at the beginning stages of learning about this and could easily be mistaken.
1230 (+100 for plus package) for a stag? Now I see why people bash them.
You can get a better AR from Rainier (rainier upper and lower combo) or from Bravo Company.
"You done good. Remember the rules of home gun smithing: Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with a torch/dremel, grind it to fit, paint it to match with a sharpie!"
Stag impresses me more and more
What makes those other brands better (after the plus package)? This is a real question, since I'm not sold on anything at this point.
ETA: It's. $1,230 after the plus package.
Last edited by Erik 1; 07-09-11 at 21:05.
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Last edited by punkkin; 07-10-11 at 15:22.
Since the "plus" package is the way they should be building their guns anyway, lets drop the "plus" . Instead, perhaps they should call the rest of their offerings the "minus" line so as to not mislead. Just sayin.
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -Benjamin Franklin
A lot of y'all are totally missing the point.
Stag/CMT is running a business. That means catering to the market and demographics.
Some seem to put on blinders when they show up at sites such as M4C.net and assume that because the demand for quality is so high here, that it must be the same everywhere.
As has been said, there are FAR FAR MORE hobby shooters, bubba-bo-bob dirt shooters, etc. then there are folks like those who inhabit these types of websites. People to whom saving cash is more important then their concern if a bolt has been shot peened (as if they would know what that meant anyways), there was parking under the FSB, or who really couldn't give two shits about 1/7 vs 1/9.
If you folks want to beat down Stag/CMT for running a business in a manner that you don't like, go start your own.
I personally beleive that there is no issue with manufacturing products that appeal to different markets. People but cheap cars with basic options vs. expensive cars with package deals all the time and no one bitches that Ford or GM offers "Economy" cars to get business from folks with less disposable income.
That being said, because of my personal demands, I have bought many CMT parts for my builds in the past and continue to do so, but based on personal experience, I have refused to use their barrels. Perhaps things have changed with this switch over to their plus package and I can give one of their barrels a shot in the future.
P.S. comparing a shot peened bolt or parking under the FSB to quality brakes on a car is one of the lamest comparison arguments i've heard in awhile. Nobody dies if their firearm isn't parked under the FSB or there is no shot peening on the bolt. Get real.
I think the original point is that for less money you can buy a better riffle.
"You done good. Remember the rules of home gun smithing: Measure it with a micrometer, mark it with chalk, cut it with a torch/dremel, grind it to fit, paint it to match with a sharpie!"
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