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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4 View Post
    based on personal experience, I have refused to use their barrels.
    Just curious as to why you won't use their barrels? I have taken a glance or two at Stag's plus package 11.5 upper and wanted your opinion on their barrels

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    Quote Originally Posted by punkkin View Post
    I got one and she's pretty much a champ. Staked BCG and all. I've only put about 2k rounds thru her, but she runs like my Colt 6920, eats everything and shoots out the empties.
    And you can buy a brand spanking new Colt 6920 for $1050, all day long.

    Heck, and if you are patient, you can pick up used Colt ARs in the $700-800 range. From CDNN and other retailers.

    So, why would anyone buy an "upgraded" gun from a company that normally turns out substandard product? This is what I do not get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgbills View Post
    Just curious as to why you won't use their barrels? I have taken a glance or two at Stag's plus package 11.5 upper and wanted your opinion on their barrels
    Seen several extrordinarily rough chambers, stuck casings because of it.

    The owners sent the rifles back and one of them had to send it back a second time because the replacement barrel did the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    So, why would anyone buy an "upgraded" gun from a company that normally turns out substandard product? This is what I do not get.
    This is where you're not understanding.

    Their other products are not "substandard". They meet the standards for the market which they are selling to.

    So now they make a product that meets the "standard" of folks like you and me. Nothing wrong with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4 View Post
    This is where you're not understanding.

    Their other products are not "substandard". They meet the standards for the market which they are selling to.

    So now they make a product that meets the "standard" of folks like you and me. Nothing wrong with that.
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    Grumpy,
    It is not a "standard" if everyone has a different one.

    You're referring to an opinion and they can (and do) vary amongst people, generally because of varying degrees of ignorance or knowledge.

    But maybe it's just me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4 View Post
    This is where you're not understanding.

    Their other products are not "substandard". They meet the standards for the market which they are selling to.

    So now they make a product that meets the "standard" of folks like you and me. Nothing wrong with that.
    Yes, there is "something wrong with it".

    Because you're talking about a shitty product which is priced almost exactly the same as an excellent product.

    And for just $100 more, you "might" be able to upgrade that steaming pile of shit to something approximating the excellent product.

    Sure, it's their money, but that doesn't change the fact that those who buy them are ****ing idiots.
    Last edited by 120mm; 07-09-11 at 23:03.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrumpyM4 View Post
    Seen several extrordinarily rough chambers, stuck casings because of it.

    The owners sent the rifles back and one of them had to send it back a second time because the replacement barrel did the same thing.
    Noted. Thanks for the input. On paper they look good. Do not think ill go with one
    Last edited by cgbills; 07-09-11 at 23:06.

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    As usual, agree wholeheartedly w/ 120!! Why would I buy an " upgraded" Stag, if I can get a real-deal Colt for the same money??

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    Among other things, in CT you can't own a Colt AR-15 or sporter. I think the Stag equivalent to the Colt 6920 is a wash, price-wise, after the plus package. The thing I am trying to get a handle on is, is the Stag with the plus package really a"shitty product" or not? If so, why? Issues with the barrels, as Grumpy noted, would seem to say yes. That's the first concrete thing I've seen.

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    I generally support Stag's option of this. To me its just a fine example of American business and the free-market. They are exanding their product line to meet more demand and a larger customer base.

    That being said, I still probably wouldn't buy one, at least just yet.
    But what then is capital punishment but the most premeditated of murders, to which no criminal's deed, however calculated it may be, can be compared? - Albert Camus

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