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All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.
-Thomas Jefferson
I spray everything off with brake cleaner then give a light coating of RemOil(spray) and let that soak in. Leaves a deep black finish.
In this instance I will use WD-40 or any other type light spray lube. I will do this, still outside, soak the living piss out of everything and swing off the excess.
That is in total honesty better than I could say my own exact thoughts on this topic...I would have taken advantage of the spell checker though
Every single word of the above, and almost creepily..I use the same cleaning kit. I rarely remember or even have qtips, however I'm a huge believer of the Hoppe's elite/Mpro7, it's an awesome product on numerous aspects...non toxic/vaporous, literally works while you don't..i.e. you spray, walk, hit w. brush, wipe....done. Maybe my favorite advantage to this product is that now I can say for sure it actually reduces future maintenance or makes the cleaning so much easy once you stay on the Hoppe's elite/Mpro7..mainly appropriate for barrels and specifically in my case...precision barrels that do get cleaned after they are brought home each time. That's why in general it's sold in such a small bottle of actual cleaner.
Last edited by ALCOAR; 05-16-11 at 23:42.
I only spotted one post in this thread that indicated people shouldn't clean their guns and my bet is the poster was joking. I think some of us have found a way to thoroughly clean our weapons without finding the need to make a big production out of it. If some folks get their jollies busting out the surgical cleaning kit and flip-down goggles to squeegie every square millimeter of their weapon - have at it. However, suggesting that those of us who find life "better through chemistry" and have discovered leaps forward like bore-snakes and brake cleaner are somehow less responsible with our weapons than those who detail clean every time they fart in the wind, is just silly...
My training guns get cleaned and lubed when I feel like cleaning them. Usually after every 1200 to 1500 rounds. My patrol rifle gets cleaned more often and then re-zeroed after cleaning. In the winter months when I usually only shoot my patrol rifle, I detail strip and clean all of my rifles and lube them thoroughly. I am a bit OCD so I like to keep everything very clean. I do not do much brushing in the barrels, maybe once a year. I have a stainless WOA barrel that I do keep very clean but I rarely shoot that rifle.
When I started as a police officer, my department firearms guy made us clean and then inspected our weapons before we left the range on qualifications day. That is a hard habit to break when it used to be department policy.
"Perfect Practice Makes Perfect"
"There are 550 million firearms on this planet. That's one firearm for every 12 people. The question is... How do we arm the other 11?" Lord of War.
"I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." Thomas Jefferson
Wow, I didn't quite expect this thread to turn into a philosophical debate about the merits of detail stripping vs total neglect. But hey, that's why I like this place.
Thank you everyone for the input. I was originally just asking about getting the fine sandy grit out of the moving parts, and took the advice about hosing it down, wiping, and relubing. I'll see how that works out the next trip.
And, just to add, I used to be thoroughly obsessive about cleaning my weapons every time I took them to the range. But these days, I might run a couple patches down the bore, squirt some oil (or grease, depending on the gun) and call it good.
I live in the desert and have had, from time to time, my carbines loaded with silt and sand after a long day at the range or shooting in the desert. I have yet to find a job that couldn't be cleaned up with a rag, some patches and a little CLP. Re-lube with MachineGunners Lube and some grease.
I know brake cleaner and diesel fuel can be used. But I haven't yet had the need to get that drastic. I try to avoid harsh chemicals to my chrome lining.
I do like a clean rifle however. I cannot agree with knowingly leaving sand in a weapon action when time and opportunity allows for a thorough cleaning. By thorough I mean 15-30 minutes.
My .02.
Non-Chlorinated Brake Cleaner is nasty stuff. Reading the MSDS for some makes me want to avoid it for health reasons.
I basically just lube/re-lube my guns and when I do clean them, I use M-Pro 7 which is basically harmless and non-toxic (will dry out your skin some as it removes the oils).
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