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Thread: A tribute to Carlos Hathcock: Examining the infamous "shot through a scope" shot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaiservontexas View Post
    Mythbusters LOL bunch of crap

    My friend with a chemistry degree watches that show just to debunk it.

    As for the Win. Pre-64 Model 70

    Well I own one.

    http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=15751&page=6

    Yep .30-06

    Only difference is in the scope.

    And I have no doubt he popped that enemy in the eye through the scope. Rifle is sub-MOA feed the right ammo.
    I'm pretty sure the 70s used by our guys in Vietnam were target models with medium-heavy barrels and a wee bit different stock. Also believe they were pre-war models. Yours just has in common that its a Model 70 and .30-06. Still a sweet rifle and a great story behind it! Treasure it!


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    Very cool Trident. Nice photography and awesome effort.

    I've never doubted Hathcock made the shot. Saw a show on the military channel about him some time ago. Wish I could remember the name of it.
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    Very interesting post.
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    No doubt that shots possible, the mythbusters would be hard pressed to figure out which end the bullet comes out of.

    As for Carlos Hathcock, well no disrespect meant, as he was definitely a great sniper, but I've heard from some of our snipers that a lot of his stories are BS, specifically the 3-day skull drag and the 2000+ yard shot with an M2 (not even feasible given the equipment available and the accuracy of the weapon)

    Chuck Mawhinney is the guy to talk about. He killed 16 NVA in under a minute using an M14 and a 1st gen starlite scope, as well as having 103 confirmed kills. Just my .02
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    The M2 shot was at 1000 yards, sand-bagged with a 10x Unertl. Having met and talked to him myself, he is far from a braggart and I would suspect BS on others before him.

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    It has been ten+ years since I've read the book but I thought there were photos of the gun set up and the dead guy/kid on the bike.

    I'd say its shitty to call into question the Gunny's honor.
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    Nice write up and experiment, OP. I don't doubt he did it.

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    Thanks for the kind words guys, and I'm glad some enjoyed viewing it.

    Few more pics including some of that last optic shot....so, so close to actually busting through a big boy optic. I have to think that if I can land a barnes 55gr. TSX or a Hornady 62 gr. TAP Barrier round just perfectly or the same as in this example shown below, it would go through to through. I would hope the TSX actually does turn into a huge wadcutter once it hits that first thick front lens.

    As you can see a Vmax blew everything outta the way up til the very rear lens where it put a nice wallop on it as denoted by the shattered glass and ripped apart internals. All things considered, I was extremely impressed with damage a 55gr. Vmax @ 100yds did to this specific example/optic when I inspected them in more detail.




    Fragments that actually made contact with rear lens...


    Mass grave:




    Few more "money shots"..consecutive individual video frames



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    Even if the shot never happened the man still has 93 confirmed kills and I'm sure MANY more that were never confirmed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    I'd say its shitty to call into question the Gunny's honor.
    ... especially since he's not here to defend himself.

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