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Thread: Guys in ban states, tell me about mags in your state

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICANHITHIMMAN View Post
    DMR pretty much nailed it if you ask me.

    I dont see the need to buy pre ban mags at 30$ to 60$ a pop. I just built all my rifles on pre ban lowers and run 13$ Pmags or free GI mags. If its pre ban there are no worries.

    As far as price goes I live in the Rochester area and I have seen guys pay upwards of 60$ for one mag and if is is COLT OMG 100$ easy. It's crazy, most shops wont even sell the mags as its like DMR stated a gray area no one realy knows for some reason.

    Jon
    Just because you have a preban lower, doesn't mean you can have 30 rd Pmags. It relates to you being able to have a bayo lug, flash hider and collapsible stock. Don't spread the wrong info. You can't use new mags just because your lower is preban

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICANHITHIMMAN View Post
    Well your right I'm wrong thanks for telling me
    WOW,,I was wondering the same thing myself !!! I didn't think PMags were GTG in NY no matter what Lower you had !!! Glad thats cleared up,, I am a good Ole NYer myself,,so I deal with this on a regular basis & it stinks,,LOL !!! Anyways,,,I have a ton of Mags,,Most are NOT Date stamped,,and were purchased Online from people selling them as Pre-Ban ! I always take them apart,,clean,,look inside to see if I can see Stamps/Number,,etc,,if nothing,,they get New Springs,,New Magpul Follower and put into the rotation !!! I am pretty selective (Cheap) when it comes to Mags,,,,I Never pay over $15 bucks for any mag,,just me I guess,,I have bought a few from Local Gun Shops & some were NIW,,but they were the Steel Taiwanese Mags & the Shop wanted $15 bucks,,plus Tax,,,so I guess I did pay a bit over $15,,LOL !!! I like the Steel mags,,,they hold up good for me,,they do weight a bit more,,,,but I like how they drop free !! I go in spurts,,,I have not bought any mags in a few months,,,but I did get about a Dozen or more from some Great guys from this place over the Winter,,but it seems like they go real fast on here !!! I have bought a ton over at TOS,,just seems like more pop up over there !!! I'm in pretty good shape right now,,,,but I'm sure I will get another bug sometime soon and be on the L(.)(.)k Out for some !!! If the price and timing is right,,I will jump on some,,,always looking I guess !!
    I see alot of mags at gunshows,,but most are C Product Mags,,being sold off as Pre-Ban,,,,I just want to go over and slap the shit out of the guys passing them off as pre-ban mags,,some real douche bags !! It kills me when people buy them and walk away a Instant Felon,,,not good !! Ya can find some decent mags at Shows,,but most are at least $20 bucks,,,or more,,,so I normally pass.

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    I'm in Western NY, my local "friendly" gun shop sells pre-ban 30 round GI mags for$49-59 dollars! and the kicker is people still buy them.
    I don't get it? Most of the gun shows around here you can still find them for $20-25.
    I think part of it is those people that buy them at that price want instant gratification with the brand new DPMS or Bushmaster they just bought for $995.99

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOMTOM View Post
    CA is stupid.

    It is not illegal to posses or use hi-capacity magazines (in a legally configured weapon, of course).

    It is illegal however to manufacture, import, or sell hi-capacity magazines after 1/1/2000. There are a few exceptions (LEO).

    If you possessed hi-cap magazines before 1/1/2000 in CA, you can rebuild worn parts with newer ones (PMAG, for example). As long as you don't end up with more magazines than you started with.

    It is not illegal to own dissasembled hi-caps AKA 'rebuild kits'. Just don't assemble them into high (standard for most of you guys) capacity magazines, since manufacturing is illegal.

    Oh, The statute of limitations for charges of manufacturing a hi-capacity magazine is 3-years.

    Very difficult (impossible) to enforce, but those are our laws. Im sure i missed something, but thats a simple run through.
    Is this info correct? If I took my 30rd mags to a range, would BATF have a hard on for me?

    This is of course that I am firing through the mags with a rifle equipped with a bullet button, but as long as I keep that feature on there, it doesn't matter if I possess or shoot high cap mags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOW_0331 View Post
    Is this info correct? If I took my 30rd mags to a range, would BATF have a hard on for me?

    This is of course that I am firing through the mags with a rifle equipped with a bullet button, but as long as I keep that feature on there, it doesn't matter if I possess or shoot high cap mags?
    Firstly, the ATF could give **** all about your mags in CA because it's a State law. Secondly, you CANNOT use your LEGALLY owned "hi-cap" magazines in a MAGAZINE-LOCKED weapon. If you had a registered AW or a FEATURELESS weapon, then you would be able to.
    http://www.m4carbine.net/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=20651&dateline=1303766618

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    Thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bowser View Post
    Firstly, the ATF could give **** all about your mags in CA because it's a State law. Secondly, you CANNOT use your LEGALLY owned "hi-cap" magazines in a MAGAZINE-LOCKED weapon. If you had a registered AW or a FEATURELESS weapon, then you would be able to.
    That confirms that everything I have heard from the local LEO's I have talked to was wrong, and that the Internet can contain some terrible info if you don't go to the right sources. Thank you kindly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOMTOM View Post
    CA is stupid.

    It is not illegal to posses or use hi-capacity magazines (in a legally configured weapon, of course).

    It is illegal however to manufacture, import, or sell hi-capacity magazines after 1/1/2000. There are a few exceptions (LEO).

    If you possessed hi-cap magazines before 1/1/2000 in CA, you can rebuild worn parts with newer ones (PMAG, for example). As long as you don't end up with more magazines than you started with.

    It is not illegal to own dissasembled hi-caps AKA 'rebuild kits'. Just don't assemble them into high (standard for most of you guys) capacity magazines, since manufacturing is illegal.

    Oh, The statute of limitations for charges of manufacturing a hi-capacity magazine is 3-years.

    Very difficult (impossible) to enforce, but those are our laws. Im sure i missed something, but thats a simple run through.
    A small detail thatsis related, you can only use high cap rifle mags in featureless build or registered assault weapon. Using them in a magazine lock build would turn that build into an illegal assault weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SOW_0331 View Post
    Is this info correct? If I took my 30rd mags to a range, would BATF have a hard on for me?

    This is of course that I am firing through the mags with a rifle equipped with a bullet button, but as long as I keep that feature on there, it doesn't matter if I possess or shoot high cap mags?
    Ca doj would be your problem.

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    OK mags are date stamped whether you see it or not. It is on the inside. I use date-stamped post ban mag bodies to rebuild old mags. I just use the pre ban floor plate. You can rebuild mags with new bodies.

    There is no exemption for out of state visitors.

    As for the going rate - in a crappy gun store it could be a lot. But there are plenty of people who seem willing to even trade their well used preban mags for brand new mags. So whatever new mags cost is about what an old preban is worth to me. At least for AR mags.

    Now my Walther P99 mags I paid $125 each but they are rare as true prebans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunguy98 View Post
    I'm in Western NY, my local "friendly" gun shop sells pre-ban 30 round GI mags for$49-59 dollars! and the kicker is people still buy them.
    I don't get it? Most of the gun shows around here you can still find them for $20-25.
    I think part of it is those people that buy them at that price want instant gratification with the brand new DPMS or Bushmaster they just bought for $995.99
    I know there is a place around Rochester,,(Webster NY I think) called Allstar Tactical,,& they had Pre-Ban mags for around $22 bucks,,,which from a Shop is a "Fair" price. Not sure if they have any left or not !! You guys out that way can look them up on Facebook and see what they have,,if any !!

    "How is preban determined? Assumed that no date code = preban?" I forgot to mention how I look for or determine Pre-Ban,,,I guess some of it is Faith in the Seller,,When they say or advertize as Pre-Bans. Which is why I always really check them out for any markings,,inside or out !! I actually had a buddy that bought some "Pre-Ban" Mags and after cleaning and a good scrubbing,,(he was gonna refinish them) he found Date Stamps on them that were Not Pre-Ban !!! He is LEO,,so it was not that big a deal,,but still kinda sucked that the seller did that !! Anyways,,,I always look for Labelle,,OK,,Adventure,,etc & like I said in my other post,,I like the Steel Taiwanese mags.

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