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    Colt 1911, calling all Experts, ??

    This may be an easy one but it sure baffled me. Here is a Pic of my new Colt Rail Gun. Got probably 400 rounds through it, no issues, functioned well. I take it to the range yesterday and have two weird issues. Same issue twice I should say.

    I shoot a round, it appears to cycle, hammer cocked, slide appears to be all the forward, round loaded on chamber, I CANT PULL TRIGGER AND CANT PUSH SAFETY UP. Yes I did have full grip with safety pressed in.



    So I bring it home and clean it. When I field strip it I notice the spring plug (not sure the proper term) has a gash in it. Now how the fork did that happen?



    Then after cleaning, I flip frame upside down to put slide on and this little guy falls down as pictured. Obviously, no expert gunsmith here, so I don't know what this guy is called. But I don't remember ever having this little guy fall out of frame on my other 1911's when cleaning. Maybe nothing but wanted to show it just in case.



    Diagnose Please?
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    That divot in the recoil spring plug is standard on some plugs.
    That other thing, never seen that either.

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    I'm no gunsmith but I've owned several Colts and I'm assuming that it's a series 80 Colt. You should contact Colt and tell them what's going on. The gouge in the plunger isn't normal however; I'm unsure how it got there.

    The piece in the frame may be part of the series 80 safety. The trigger activates it and I believe that if prevents the slide from operating if the trigger isn't depressed. Perhaps there is something wrong with yours, which is another reason to contact Colt. Also, this safety is a reason why series 70 Colts are more desirable.

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    That's the Series 80 parts that we were talking about. When you pull the trigger, that piece pushes the firing pin block in the slide out of the way.

    Did Nelson do trigger work for you? I had this happen on one of my Colts that he did trigger work on.
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    Please don't take this the wrong way, it's meant to be helpful, but you can to to a site like Brownell's and get a schematic of a 1911...so you can get the part names correct.

    I can't view your pix (our .mil servers strip all that rot right out) but if your plunger tube becomes loose/dislodged from the frame it can cause the safety/trigger symptoms you described.

    as for you other description, w/o pix I'm of no help.
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    Delete.
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    The "gouge" in the spring plug is from the factory; it keeps the plug from flying off the recoil spring during disassembly. If I lived in the Phoenix area I would get ahold of one of several reputable gunsmiths (HP, CT Brian, Eric Zinn, Frank Glenn, Nelson Ford, I am sure the are others) in the area and see of they could diagnose the problem.

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    I'd explain the incident to the guy who did the work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa View Post
    The "gouge" in the spring plug is from the factory; it keeps the plug from flying off the recoil spring during disassembly. If I lived in the Phoenix area I would get ahold of one of several reputable gunsmiths (HP, CT Brian, Eric Zinn, Frank Glenn, Nelson Ford, I am sure the are others) in the area and see of they could diagnose the problem.

    Yep, that slot cut in the recoil spring plunger is designed to fit into the end of the recoil spring, which then captures the plug as you rotate the bushing and keeps it from launching across the room.

    The dingle that's sticking out, as mentioned, activates the Series 80 firing pin lock when you pull the trigger.

    Did you have trigger work done on this piece?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsa View Post
    The "gouge" in the spring plug is from the factory; it keeps the plug from flying off the recoil spring during disassembly.
    You learn something new everyday. I don't remember my Colts having the gouge in the plunger. Is that because the gun doesn't use a full length guide rod. None of my other 1911's have the gouge but they have full length guide rods.

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