Ranger 5.56

[R1pper]

Has any one actually used this ammo, The Winchester Ranger 5.56 frangible? I want to load like 5 mags with this ammo for LEO use (we have to buy our own patrol rifles). But I have not heard anything on what is better the TAP or the Ranger. Also I have heard that you need at least such and such of a twist to shoot a low grain frangible ammo, I have a 1x9.

[Gunfighter13]

I did not like the Ranger frangible. Shot 1000 rounds of the stuff. Did not penetrate window glass or light barriers. I still prefer the RA223R Soft tip 55 gr or the TAP 75gr HP. They are the most used by LEO agencies also.

[signal4l]

My Pd uses this ammo on our indoor range. I have seen it keyhole at 5 yards out of an M16-A1. Stick with at least a 1/9 twist and you will be fine. Probably not a good choice for duty ammo.

[WS6]

I belive this is range ammo and will not frag in gelatin or people from what I have seen of tests done with frangible ammunition of this variety.

[Failure2Stop]

Frangible=range use only for steel/shoot-houses.

[ST911]

Has any one actually used this ammo, The Winchester Ranger 5.56 frangible? I want to load like 5 mags with this ammo for LEO use (we have to buy our own patrol rifles). But I have not heard anything on what is better the TAP or the Ranger. Also I have heard that you need at least such and such of a twist to shoot a low grain frangible ammo, I have a 1x9.

Outside of some specialty aps and locations, frangible is not a suitable duty load. (If you're in those venues, you're already issued something much better anyway.)

I've shot a bunch of frangible. All were best out of the 1/7s. 1/9s were okay.

There's copious amounts of data on duty loads out there, and previously posted here. Do you have to provide your own ammo, too?

[markm]

The federal NT (frangible rounds) are 50 grainers. I've heard reports of nasty key holes from 1/9 barrels. The bullet itself is about as long as a M856 tracer since there's no lead in it.

[WS6]

Outside of some specialty aps and locations, frangible is not a suitable duty load. (If you're in those venues, you're already issued something much better anyway.)

I've shot a bunch of frangible. All were best out of the 1/7s. 1/9s were okay.

There's copious amounts of data on duty loads out there, and previously posted here. Do you have to provide your own ammo, too?

FWIW, Evan Smith likes the 40gr varmint loads for open-air shots (i.e. no cars involved).

[C4IGrant]

I did not like the Ranger frangible. Shot 1000 rounds of the stuff. Did not penetrate window glass or light barriers. I still prefer the RA223R Soft tip 55 gr or the TAP 75gr HP. They are the most used by LEO agencies also.

Agree. Pass on the frang stuff. 75gr TAP or 77gr MK's is really the best way to go.



C4

[ST911]

FWIW, Evan Smith likes the 40gr varmint loads for open-air shots (i.e. no cars involved).

Sorry, that name doesn't ring a bell.