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    Thanks for clarifying that.
    I think that the non-sporting use concept is doomed , but it may take years , multiple court cases , and lots of lawyers , votes & money to make it stick.
    "... in common use at the time... for all lawful purposes... "

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraq Ninja View Post
    Why do people restore muscle cars from the 1960s? The cars of today are much better and more advanced. Why restore WW2 aircraft? Why do people collect stamps?

    Gun ownership is not all about tactical applications. Some folks collect vintage ARs and there is nothing wrong with that. I fancy WW2 rifles.

    Once upon a time, the AR was a simple, lightweight system. I carried a M16A1 and a CAR 15 in the Army. I still have my first AR 15 I bought in 1976 in its original configuration. I still have a bunch of CAR parts from my old unit and someday I intend to build me one... like I used to carry.
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    SO well put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd.K View Post
    Here is what the Law says, it's not being made up by the ATF.

    18USC925(d)(3)
    "it shall be unlawful to import any frame, receiver, or barrel of such firearm which would be prohibited if assembled"

    http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi...ction=retrieve
    I clicked on the link but it was dead.

    Is this a new law since '94? I ask because in '93/'94 I bought a M14 parts kit that was imported from Israel. It had a beautiful Winchester bbls marked March/1968.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Nostalgia....

    Last year I sent off the proper parts and had an XM-177 upper built, with a lt wt barrel and the proper faux Moderator installed.

    It came home and I mounted the upper on a spare Spikes lower to test fire it. It hasn't been off that lower yet, and it gets almost as much trigger time as any of the oothers in the stable.

    Everyone that shoots it likes the light weight, balance and most are surprised how accurate it is...DESPITE those old iron sights, way up there on the carry handle. LOL.

    Less IS more at times.

    I still need to find or put together the proper appearing lower, as well as find one of the old collapsible stocks.

    Built this one to duplicate the XM's I saw when I was in the USAF way back in the late 1960's. So a nostalgia thing for me.

    FN in MT

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    Photos please!
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    On the left is an old Colt Sporter in 7.62x39. The XM clone UPPER is on the right. I ended up sticking a Mag-Pul handguard and a light on it. My new "house gun".

    The .540" lt barrel was cut and a very nice faux moderator installed and pinned by one of the guys over on the AR retro forums; HeatnBeat.

    I still need a proper era handguard. WHY I stuck the Mag Pul on...simply to try it.

    I really should get the proper lower from NoDak Spud. Then get some faux USAF XM engravings, as well as the "Property of US Govt" engraving, from Ident Markings, get it refinished and finish this project UP.

    Need a proper butt stock. DID find a coouple of proper era OD nylon slings , as well as pistol grip. And a few old 20 round GI mags too.

    FN in MT
    Last edited by FN in MT; 04-08-12 at 15:49.

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    Looks good. I use the MOE handguards on my guns too.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Quote Originally Posted by usmcvet View Post
    Looks good. I use the MOE handguards on my guns too.
    Sorry for the lousy, long distance digital, but I had it in the HD already.

    I have an old LE buddy who occasionally gifts me with "over stocks" from his Agency. Few yrs back it was Mag Pul stuff. Hence everything wearing MP hand guards. I DO like them as well. and the cheap little add on kit to be able to mount the VLTOR light holder...works perfectly.

    I've got so many other irons in the fire...I need to get off my ass and get that AR project done.

    FN in MT

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    I have an FN A2 upper and bbl ready to go but need to find my upper block so I can put them together. I checked Brownells and they're out of stock.first ding all of the parts was half the fun. Its going to wear an old set of A2 handguards.

    Last edited by usmcvet; 04-08-12 at 16:23. Reason: both uppers need a trip to the vise.
    "Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraq Ninja View Post
    Why do people restore muscle cars from the 1960s? The cars of today are much better and more advanced. Why restore WW2 aircraft? Why do people collect stamps?

    Gun ownership is not all about tactical applications. Some folks collect vintage ARs and there is nothing wrong with that. I fancy WW2 rifles.

    Once upon a time, the AR was a simple, lightweight system. I carried a M16A1 and a CAR 15 in the Army. I still have my first AR 15 I bought in 1976 in its original configuration. I still have a bunch of CAR parts from my old unit and someday I intend to build me one... like I used to carry.
    I agree and they are still a simple and light weight system. I have an "A1" like I carried in basic.
    Todd
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