I like them simple without all the garbage people put on them today.
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I like them simple without all the garbage people put on them today.
I do like the modern variations, but the old school A1's represent everything that an AR is supposed to be....Light as hell, 100% assault ready, and good looking to boot. Its the ultimate good guy gun.
I like old cars too, don't have one, can't justify the cost. Retro AR's I can afford. It is fun.
"Real men have always needed to know what time it is so they are at the airfield on time, pumping rounds into savages at the right time, etc. Being able to see such in the dark while light weights were comfy in bed without using a light required luminous material." -Originally Posted by ramairthree
The lightweight retros balance nicely, and they are COOL!...
Because even with all the new and amazing gear. Old guns are fun to shoot.
I have two original Colt SP-1 ARs that I’ve owned for a very long time. When I joined, the Army was still issuing M-16A1, and we thought it was pretty effective. It was a reliable, light-weight, accurate rifle that could produce devastating terminal effect with the issued M193 ammo. It was simple to use, easy to maintain, light to carry. I liked the system enough that I acquired the closest thing I could to my issued rifle – a Colt SP-1. I used it for leg matches when I was on the rifle team - it rocked. It was a reliable and accurate companion in my youth, and I trusted my life to it. I bought another for my wife when we married, and I've managed to keep all three (2 original Colts and 1 original wife).
I’ve migrated through all of the “upgrades” the intervening years have brought, and I’ve bought the best of each new generation. Some I’ve kept; others I’ve used to trade up when then next new hot thing came along. I currently have a healthy stable of quality ARs (Colt, LMT and Noveske and an ARP 6.8 upper). I still like my first old Colts about as well as any of the others and have no plans to let them get away. Every time I handle them, I’m amazed at how light and handy they are. I’m also impressed at the quality of craftsmanship and the capability those rifles represent. They still easily shoot under 2 minutes with Federal 55 grain ammo I can buy at Wal-Mart.
Many of the changes that have been introduced were intended to improve durability/serviceability for military use and don’t generate significant benefit to most civilian shooters. Sure, I like flat-tops for optics, faster twist barrels for heavier, longer bullets, free float handguards with accessory rails for white light and a QD bipod or a VFG, and a switchblock for use with a suppressor (thanks Noveske), but . . . most of the time, most of that stuff is just hanging on the rifle “in case I need it.”
The capability that comes with many of the mods is for many users superfluous and in those instances, they merely add weight and complexity. I’ve come to like my solutions as simple as possible – its kind of an Occam’s razor thing. On a cost/benefit basis I think the simpler, lighter 20” rifles still excel for what most people would want an AR-15 for: a reliable, light-weight, accurate rifle that can produce the necessary terminal effect with commonly available ammo. They’re also svelte and attractive, but that’s merely a bonus.
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The Retros are very important in respect to preserving history; modern small arms in most cases are combinations of past principles that have been combined into a package that up to that point did not exist
These older weapons allow us track the past so we can plot a course for the future ; the fact it is extremely enjoyable just adds to the experience
Thanks to forums like this and vendors like Nodak Spud the AR retro market is better than it has ever been; NDS deserves everlasting thanks for coming out with all the old styles of AR lowers with excellent quality to boot!!
Good times to be a black rifle fan for sure !!
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My retro middy/GUU-5p type. I was going to do the whole 14.5 but the middy just seemed better at the time of the build. Also it was fun.
He did. He told us why retros work for him. I want to hear from others as well. What about your story? You mentioned wanting a rifle like you carried in basic. What is the attraction for you, I mean, why do you have nostalgia for the rifle you carried in basic?
It's not that I don't understand the nostalgia. There are plenty of firearms that evoke nostalgia for me.
What's your story?
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