Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
It's also about velocity as well. The SPR uppers would be used for example when someone is deployed to Afghanistan as an example and is sitting in a COB/ FOB or acting a DDM/SDM/Sniper whatever.

The shorter configurations would be used when doing urban stuff, inside vehicles, etc...


Of course in a perfect world they would also have proper ammo.

The NFA Plan is real simple and I mentioned it before.

If we end up with a new service weapon or if they phase out certain models, whatever then I propose that all surplus M4's, M16's, etc... as they begin to be phased out be turned over to the CMP and be resold to the civilian populace. You would have to follow the same current NFA purchasing guidelines.

The money generated would go into a special fund that would be used to offset any future costs for those new weapons or whatever and the rest would go to the CMP.

Veterans and active duty personnel would get first dibs on weapons and there would be a limit of 3 per person so as to prevent unscrupulous assholes from screwing people. The prices would be stupidly high like current M16 prices.
When you say that, do you mean if the assholes did that? or if it happened anyway? Due to supply and demand the prices would drop for a while...

I understood the use, no offence, but the part I'm trying to make clear is IMHO there isn't enough of a velocity/accuracy/usability difference between the barrel profiles. Even an 11.5'' gun with magnification can hit minute of man at 600m with a good sight on it. Hell. I do it with Irons (as it's all I have), in that case, the gun is STILL capable of more than the shooter, and it would be cheaper to buy bullets, and instruction than it would to buy multiple upper receivers for every grunt out there.

Both plans are sound, but IMHO one upper (that can do all - 11.5'', 12.5'', 14.5'') and shit loads of training, and one standard variable optic (Elcan made by a company that doesn't suck, or S&B contract) would produce more enemy casualties in the real world. IMHO and all that, of course I think your idea has a bit more merit than mine because you have a lot more experience over there than I do.

My argument is training > equipment in all aspects.


Back to the TDP thing: If I were to pick stuff from the market today and make a service rifle out of it that would be going to every grunt out there it'd probably be...

(Disclaimer: I'm a little biased)

KAC 200-600m Micro Sights (rear)
M4 upper receiver (Nickel Boron Coated - Phosphate USGI Black like FailZero's offering)
KAC E3 Barrel Extension
KAC E3 Bolt Assembly
FailZero Bolt Carrier
KAC A2 Birdcage Flash Hider Suppressor Mount
KAC QDSS-NT4 Suppressor
Tango Down BG-17 Pistol Grip
KAC E3 Lower Receiver (or ADEX ambi receiver maybe.)
KAC URX-III Rail + Front Sight
1-4X Variable sight
M4 Gen II stock (soldier can purchase their own stock, M4 standard works fine IMO)
KAC Endplate/sling attachment (if E3 receiver wasn't used)
14.5'' barrel (proof tested and all per TDP) double chrome lined, CHF, tapered bore, match crowned - midlength
Smallest gas port possible
VLTOR A5 Receiver extension, with a buffer weight made for 14.5'' + Midlength)
USGI magazines + Magpul Followers
5.56x45mm Mk. 318 Mod. 0 as standard ammunition

Cost not an issue in a perfect world.