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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric View Post
    Thanks for taking the time to do the research on this and sharing the info. 3.5-4 is really on the low end of what I would like to see. I'd be more comfortable with 4-5. Did Bill mention if he can teak it just a bit to fit the users request?
    I believe he could. Trigger weight from what I have seen is more associated with the poundage of the trigger spring more than the overlap, cut of the hammer and trigger angles, but I could be wrong about this on the AR platform. Give him a shout, and please report what you find out.

    Here is Bill's contact info:

    Bill Springfield
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    For me, I like the 3 1/2 to 4 lb range for defense. It matches what I have always had on my 1911's. I'm not concerned about me "jumping on it" and having the engagement release prematurely. My concern has always revolved around the trigger not following after a round is fired creating a burst fire.

    Tack

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddackerman View Post
    The trigger in question, (IF it is the same one we are talking about) was dry when Bill received it, combined with a raised part on the disconnector that created excessive wear on the hammer/ trigger engagement. This is what Bill remembers, please don't shoot the messenger!
    Yeah, that certainly sounds like mine. I never made a point to regularly lube the FCG.

    Funny that you mention this, as I actually started hitting all of the critical points on the trigger group with a CLP soaked Q-tip after I got it back.


    Quote Originally Posted by toddackerman View Post
    One last point...Bill has reportedly done hundreds of trigger jobs from "Working Guns" to "Paper Punchers", and the trigger in question was the first he has ever had returned because of "Full Auto" related failures.
    Wow. Hopefully I'm not starting one of those vast, unfounded internet myths that originate from a single post, stemming from some isolated incident.

    If we start seeing threads on TOS titled "OMG Bill Springfield triggers are teh SUCK!!!11", I'm going to feel pretty bad.

    That really is quite impressive that my trigger was the only one he'd ever seen with such a failure, considering that there seem to be tons of guys on TOS that have his triggers. Working with hundreds of triggers, it's only a matter of time before one comes across some manufacturing defect, or some combination of factors that make this happen.

    I appreciate all the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 750.356 View Post
    Yeah, that certainly sounds like mine. I never made a point to regularly lube the FCG.

    Funny that you mention this, as I actually started hitting all of the critical points on the trigger group with a CLP soaked Q-tip after I got it back.




    Wow. Hopefully I'm not starting one of those vast, unfounded internet myths that originate from a single post, stemming from some isolated incident.

    If we start seeing threads on TOS titled "OMG Bill Springfield triggers are teh SUCK!!!11", I'm going to feel pretty bad.

    That really is quite impressive that my trigger was the only one he'd ever seen with such a failure, considering that there seem to be tons of guys on TOS that have his triggers. Working with hundreds of triggers, it's only a matter of time before one comes across some manufacturing defect, or some combination of factors that make this happen.

    I appreciate all the info.
    You're welcome!

    I wouldn't sweat what anyone else does on TOS. That is where most of the positive posts have come from on the internet, and I have yet to see a negative one about Bill's work over there. I searched diligently, and couldn't find any posts highlighting any problems. Just to keep it in check, I'm going to post my review there as well.

    I think after talking to Bill, he's an upstanding guy, and just like you have experienced, stands behind his work. Hopefully this has served as a learning experience (my intent) to everyone here. I know I learned a lot from my research and discussions with Bill. I would also believe that even this isolated instance would make Bill even better than he already is. He just seems like the kind of guy who accepts both the good and the bad admirably, and learns from it.

    Tack

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    I want to resurrect an old thread...

    I'm on the verge of sending my trigger to Springfield, because it's intolerably creepy. I'm used a ratty M1 Carbine and a Springfield Armory M1A, and they're both WAY better than my new AR.

    I don't want to spend $100+ on a 2-stage trigger, and 99% of what I've seen on the errornet endorses the Springfield trigger job.

    There's a guy on calguns.net saying that his Bill Springfield trigger job crapped out (went full auto) after 2,000 rounds or so. This seems to be another freak occurrance, but I just wanted to make sure.

    Any comments, reviews, endorsements, or caveats about the Springfield trigger job?

    TIA,

    Ben

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    I've put about 375 rounds through a 4 lb Bill Springfield trigger job on a Stag FCG in the last two weeks, along with about 100 dry fire pulls. No issues whatsoever - very consistent and crisp.

    1 week turnaround done in early August '08. He'll get my next build's FCG as soon as I replenish the bank account!

    Pk

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    I Have 2,000 rounds on my Bill Springfield trigger job and it's still very solid and crisp.

    I don't know the guy on calguns but there was one fellow that had a faulty (very soft metal) disconnector that caused an issue about 2 years ago. You need to find out if it's the same guy or if this is a different occurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddackerman View Post
    You need to find out if it's the same guy or if this is a different occurance.
    That's why I'm asking!

    It's "Chunger" on CalGuns.net who says that his (actually, his wife's) went full-auto after 2,000 rounds or so, it wasn't even really clear that it was Springfield who had worked on his trigger.

    These are the only mentions of problems that I've seen anywhere, so I'm telling Santa that I want this for X-mas...

    Ben

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    I just got mine back and installed. I have no real complaints as of yet. I do wish I had some trigger weights as I'd like to see what it really measures out at once installed in my gun.

    Like you, I had a hard time finding anyone with anything bad to say. Of course, I'm sure that the vast majority (like with any AR parts) are owned by people that never shoot them.

    I'm expecting to run this carbine through a Jeff Gonzales class in February, and 2500 rounds in 3 days should give me a good idea of where it stands.

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    It should be noted that Bill also does trigger work on guns other than AR's. He did a great job on my HK91 trigger pack, taking it from approx 12 lbs down to about 5 lbs and getting rid of the take up and over travel.

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