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    BAD-ASS 45* Ambi Safety

    I recently purchased a BAD-ASS-45* Ambi Safety lever from Battle Arms Development. I've hated the 90* design on the AR platform, and after handling MP5s, I knew there had to be a better design on the market. Apparently, there is. I know this has been discussed here before and may not be new to alot of folks, but to me this is revolutionary.


    Because a milspec lower will have "Safe" and "Fire" at 90*, the 45* safety will not point to fire when disengaged. Because of this, the safety will be shipped with a small pin to prevent it from being used in normal lowers as a liability reason. This pin is easily filed off with a hand file from a Gerber in a matter of minutes, maybe even seconds with a determined individual. After removing the pin (its made of a VERY soft metal and will go away easily, have no fear), the safety can be installed by removing your pistol grip, spring, detent, and original safety. Then place your 45* safety into your lower, screw your ambi throw lever into the opposite side, and then reinstall your components (simple stuff folks).
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    The throw levers of your safety can be changed out with different offerings from BAD, including standard, thin, short, short+thin, hybrid, or a simple endcap to remove ambi features. BAD recommends two short lever, and I agree with them. I am currently sporting a standard and a short, but I just ordered a second BAD-ASS 45* with a Short and short+thin because I like this thing so much.



    The 45* engages with a solid click and offers extremely smooth operation. To switch it on and off, the only movement required is a simple flick of the thumb, rather than moving your hand with the original 90*. I'll never be able to go back to the normal setup again as this things is just genius.



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    I have one that I installed about 2 months ago. I can easily tell the difference when going from SAFE- FIRE. My Dremel made easy work of that pin in about 60 seconds.



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    Thank you LowSpeed for the review!

    As many of the m4carbinet regulars know, we had to make it incompatible because the 45 degree selector's pointer does not go to 12 o'clock, but more like 10 o'clock, thus creating a liability issue for us, and potentially for the customer if he lets someone handles it that may not be as safe, or aware that it's not a conventional 90 degree throw.

    45/90 compatible receivers have a hole on the left of the selector hole to accept the pin block, and the new Fire/pictogram engraving is located at 68 degrees as to be suitable for both 45 and 90 degree selectors.

    AXTS, TOS (you know what I mean ) have 45/90 compatible receivers, and soon Spikes too. Our hope is to, over time, through more 45/90 compatible receivers, make the 45 degree arrangement a valid option for lower receivers, whereas now it may be seen as a niche, wild cat and even boutique item.

    When folks realize that the concept is nothing new, and has been found on weapons dating back to the Cold War weapons such as FAL and G3, and the manual of arms does not change much (Fire is still a downward press on the lever, Safe is in the same place, except now you can use the tip of your thumb to put it back on Safe without shifting your grips), these facts may overcome the reluctance to give up something old and familiar (the 90 degree arrangement).

    But the ironic thing is it's very similar to the old an familiar 90 degree throw, only everything is now much faster.

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    I really didn't know what a difference it made till I just recently bought a SCAR and I actually like the short throw of the selector. Looking forward to buying the BADASS one soon.

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    I found it to be a logical progression of the AR platform. For the semi-auto FCG, it eliminates wasted motion in bringing the weapon to bear and speeds up the cycle of readiness, therefore allowing a few milliseconds more for sighting and trigger press. Efficiency at it's simplest.... Now, just waiting for the CASS 3P version to drop.

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    I'll be ordering one soon!

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    This forum is hell on my wallet!

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    If you guys buy an AXTS forged or the upcoming fully ambidextrous billet receiver with a 45 degree selector together, the 45 degree selector is a lot less
    Roger Wang
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    There is a Goddess.

    Being a former G3 owner, and played with MP5 types for airsoft, I miss their selectors. Problem solved.

    Who is that is selling them with the SSA triggers? Are they combining them with the 45*?
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    We do have a 45 degree + Geissele bundle http://shop.battlearmsdevelopment.co...T-GEISSELE.htm

    And if you're MIL, LEO, firefighter or EMT personnel, please email me for discount info
    Roger Wang
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