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Thread: BAD-ASS 45* Ambi Safety

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    The ongoing debate at Battle Arms Dev. is what we should include with our selectors. We include the rather expensive KNS stainless steel detent, because it can have a real positive impact on the operation of the selector.

    Trident thinks we should include a detent spring. We actually bought 1000 of the detent springs and have been giving them away as SWAG to repeat customers, or any customer (regardless where they bought the Battle Arms Dev. selector) that asks for it. The reason one isn't included is it does not address the ills of spring tension, which can affect any selector, the cause of which usually isn't the spring.

    We joke that we should include the detent, pistol grip, detent spring, and a receiver to ensure 100% functionality of our selector

    RE: paint pen, it isn't crucial or relevant to the operation of the selector. The inclusion of which, with the implied purpose of allowing the user to color different markings on a 45 degree selector for use on a non-45 degree selector compatible receiver, is akin to suggesting or encouraging the removal of the 45 degree selector's stainless steel pin block, as such measure would be unnecessary for a 45 degree compatible receiver. We can't go anywhere near there

    To date, nobody except Battle Arms Dev. includes a detent with a selector. We include two T10 wrenches with the CASS-3P, M16 selector, and four screws with the Cerakoted selectors (two Cerakoted screws, two black oxide screws), and we include a third lever with our kit (a two lever kit can be purchased from our dealers). The price of our selector puts it at the top of the food chain, and being a premium product, it dictates that above and beyond service and support go with it. We only make premium product, so the same can be said of anything we produce

    By the way, we're Cerakoting 20 sets of selectors in bright pink for our female customers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffy View Post
    By the way, we're Cerakoting 20 sets of selectors in bright pink for our female customers
    I just started getting parts together for pink and white rifles for my daughters! Yet again, more items to buy from Duffy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoryCop25 View Post
    FTS, run the gun a bit and switch back to a standard lever. See how that feels. My opinion is that the standard lever becomes unnatural.
    I concur.
    I have significant time behind HK rifles/subguns, AK varients, and FN rifles (with most on the SCAR).
    Going back to AR varients always makes me ponder the selector.
    I am very happy with the BAD 45 degree lever, especially after I swapped the backstrap on my MIAD for the medium one.
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    I don't have much time on any other platform other than the AR. I have fired an MP5SD, UMP, MP5 and I had an HK 91 clone. I have to say that there has to be something said for two different people with a lot of time on other platforms that use a ST type selector and someone who has almost no time on other platforms who have the same opinion that this is the better option for the AR.
    I do not have access to an M-16 right now (soon) but I would love to be part of adapting the Short Throw concept to the full auto side of the lever.
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    I have heard the same reaction from someone that never shot an AR before, a young shooter in that instance. He was given an AR with a short throw selector first, then an AR with a 90 degree selector. The short throw felt natural, and more importantly, his relatively small hand could reach the selector whether it was on Safe or Fire. He did not like the 90 degree selector
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    Duffy,

    Is there anyone else that may start producing 45/90 degree lowers as of right now or anyone else you have been talking to? Just curious as I am not a huge fan of the full ambi lowers.

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    Logan, check out the Battle Arms section of this forum. There seem to be a few new lowers by different companies in the works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loganp0916 View Post
    Duffy,

    Is there anyone else that may start producing 45/90 degree lowers as of right now or anyone else you have been talking to? Just curious as I am not a huge fan of the full ambi lowers.
    AXTS offers the A-DAC-F lower receiver which is amazing bang for the buck. $150 for stripped lower puts it below many other companies (Noveske, etc) but you get drop in 45 degree functionality and you get to lock back the bolt while holding mag release if you want to (in my eyes an amazing feature).

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    Please see this thread https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=95034

    The list will be updated as more manufacturers embrace the 45/90 compatible concept. Spikes and Legion Firearms should be bringing out theirs soon
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    Thank you everybody
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