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    You won't hear anything with just a primer & bullet, except maybe an easily missed sort of a hollow bloop. You won't feel anything either. Nothing else could seat the bullet deep enough in the rifling that it would let the second round chamber without a problem
    INSIDE PLAN OF BOX
    1. ROAD-RUNNER LIFTS GLASS OF WATER- PULLING UP MATCH
    2. MATCH SCRATCHES ON MATCH-BOX
    3. MATCH LIGHTS FUSE TO TNT
    4. BOOM!
    5. HA-HA!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    You won't hear anything with just a primer & bullet, except maybe an easily missed sort of a hollow bloop. You won't feel anything either. Nothing else could seat the bullet deep enough in the rifling that it would let the second round chamber without a problem
    What about a bad crimp or a cracked case neck maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    From reading your description, my guess is that the first round had no powder and the primer drove the bullet into the rifling. The stuck bullet caused the catastrophic rise in pressure.

    Glad to hear no one got hurt
    I've tested rounds with no powder and the primer does not have enough power to move the bullet even with no roll crimp. I have tired SR and SRM primers as well as 55gr to 75gr bullets, no combination I found would move the bullet, much less seat it into the lands.

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    Don't know about .223 but I've had primer only 9mm stick in the barrel.
    I'd guess that a cracked case neck would still obturate the chamber and send the bullet.

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    From the picture it looks like the lower survived. Are you able to salvage the lower?

    Glad you're OK.

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    Oouch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keesh View Post
    I've tested rounds with no powder and the primer does not have enough power to move the bullet even with no roll crimp. I have tired SR and SRM primers as well as 55gr to 75gr bullets, no combination I found would move the bullet, much less seat it into the lands.
    Interesting. I've had pistol bullets driven into the rifling and witnessed a 150 gr 30-06 bullet driven into the rifling with just a primer. In the case of the '06, a bullet was pulled from another cartridge and a small wad of TP placed in the neck to keep the powder from spilling out. The cartridge was placed in the chamber and used to fire out the stuck bullet. Not sure I would recommend that method though, I only saw it done once.

    I have never run tests with just bullets & primers, however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Tischauser View Post
    What about a bad crimp or a cracked case neck maybe?
    If you're referring to a situation where there is insufficient pressure to shoot the bullet out the barrel, you are correct. A bad crimp by itself wouldn't do that. I personally have never have had a cracked neck result in a bullet getting stuck in the barrel

    However, a more likely scenario is an undercharge, with just enough oomph to move the bullet partway down the barrel, or even contaminated powder
    Last edited by MistWolf; 06-20-11 at 20:40.
    INSIDE PLAN OF BOX
    1. ROAD-RUNNER LIFTS GLASS OF WATER- PULLING UP MATCH
    2. MATCH SCRATCHES ON MATCH-BOX
    3. MATCH LIGHTS FUSE TO TNT
    4. BOOM!
    5. HA-HA!!

    -WILE E. COYOTE, AUTHOR OF "EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO KNOW IN LIFE, I LEARNED FROM GOLDBERG & MURPHY"

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    And this is why I don't shoot reloads, mine or anyone else's. Not bashing reloading or those that do it, I just choose not to because people make mistakes and I don't want the chance to screw something up.

    Glad you are okay OP, it can happen to anybody. I've had two kabooms, both in the same rifle, so I know not to shoot crap ammo anymore. Luckily the rifle is still 100% after both incidents. I'm thankful for eye pro and that I'm ok as well.

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    Cripes amighty!! Glad to see no one was hurt. NO more reloads for you eh?? It could have been a lot worse.

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    Wow - glad there were no serious injuries.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Tischauser View Post
    ...I had a round fail to fire during a drill. I thought maybe I ran out of ammo and the bolt didn't lock back. So I changed mags rapidly and racked a fresh round into the chamber.
    When you racked, did a case eject?

    And if so, did you examine it?

    I've never reloaded for 5.56/.223, but have for .45 probably for a total of 15 yrs.

    And only had a problem twice - forget to put the powder in. And both times, the primer was not strong enough for the bullet to leave the case. And both times, I heard and felt that something was not quite right. I have the last one around here somewhere - to remind me.

    I had a squib with WWB 115gr FMJ 9mm at a class. Gun fired, it sounded normal, slide moved, picked up a new round, but the slide didn't go into battery, so I TRBed. Slide still didn't go into battery with the new round, so I hit the back of the slide - and it still didn't go into battery.

    Rut roh.

    Dumped the mag, removed the slide, and looked in the barrel. The bullet went into the barral just far enough that it prevented the next round from completely chambering.

    Good ****ing thing, as it would've blown up in my hand.

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