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    Arrow Help on a college build!

    I am leaving for college in the fall and want an ar15 I can use on summer breaks for the next four years. It cant be more than $700 but only plan on putting 4000 rounds through it till its retired. When I graduate I will build a nice, quality, lightweight, 18" middy SPR with only Colt/DD/BCM/Novesky/(quality builder here) parts. But till then I will need a cheap place holder to satisfy my urge, and since it will be a cheap bullet unloader I plan on getting a short gas 16". Although this will be a cheap place holder for a good rifle I would like it to be reliable for the 4000-5000 rounds with frequent cleaning.

    Also it needs to be built from parts, I have already purchased a DPMS lower pts kit for ~$50.00 from Midway (sale till July 4th), have my eye on a Aim Surplus lower for $60 and a cheap C.A.R. sock with buffer-toob and assembly for $35 (will have it shipped to PA gunsmith 10min away and pinned). How is that for a lower? And what can I get for $550 that will do what I need it to do?

    P.S. I live in New Jersey but on the border and have a PA gunsmith very close. For the most part if anything is NJ illegal I can ship it to him and he can make it legal (I want this to be above board).

    P.S.S. Thanks for the help in advance...

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    Palmetto State Armory has a deal on , OE rifle kits. It's about $540, and all you need is a stripped lower

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    RGN,

    This isn't a custom build topic. I encourage you to do some reading. You won't like my advice, but here it is. Save your pennies a little longer and make sure to get the right parts. In your case I advise not building an AR, but you have already ventured down the path.

    There is no need for you to have an AR right now. It's all about a want. Search for a quality off-the-shelf AR that will meet NJ's silly ass laws.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RandomGunNut View Post
    I am leaving for college in the fall and want an ar15 I can use on summer breaks for the next four years. It cant be more than $700 but only plan on putting 4000 rounds through it till its retired. When I graduate I will build a nice, quality, lightweight, 18" middy SPR with only Colt/DD/BCM/Novesky/(quality builder here) parts. But till then I will need a cheap place holder to satisfy my urge, and since it will be a cheap bullet unloader I plan on getting a short gas 16". Although this will be a cheap place holder for a good rifle I would like it to be reliable for the 4000-5000 rounds with frequent cleaning.
    For that price range there are very few uppers I'd suggest. M&A Parts and Model 1 Sales both offer complete "AWB" kits in your price range but have mixed reputations.

    Below are links to some "AWB kits" for NY/NJ residents. There are more but this is a good starting point.

    NJ Firearms Application:
    http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/info/pdf...ms/sts-033.pdf

    NY/NJ AWB compliant kits-

    16" kits:
    http://model1sales.com/index.cfm?fus...ategory_id=202

    http://model1sales.com/index.cfm?fus...ategory_id=219

    http://model1sales.com/index.cfm?fus...ategory_id=228

    AR-15 Depot Uppers (These will need a perm attached muzzle brake or muzzle nut for the threaded barrels):

    http://www.ar15depot.com/uppers.htm

    Also it needs to be built from parts, I have already purchased a DPMS lower pts kit for ~$50.00 from Midway (sale till July 4th), have my eye on a Aim Surplus lower for $60 and a cheap C.A.R. sock with buffer-toob and assembly for $35 (will have it shipped to PA gunsmith 10min away and pinned). How is that for a lower? And what can I get for $550 that will do what I need it to do?
    I really wish you hadn't already jumped on the LPK. With your budget buying a complete parts kit would have been a better solution. Those cheap (UTG/TAPCO/Leapers etc) stocks are garbage and the buffers that come with them are under sized. As far as lowers go, the Surplus Arms will do fine. Here is a recommended NJ legal stock with buffer and spring included:

    http://www.stagarms.com/product_info...roducts_id=373

    P.S. I live in New Jersey but on the border and have a PA gunsmith very close. For the most part if anything is NJ illegal I can ship it to him and he can make it legal (I want this to be above board).
    I'm currently living near Paramus NJ and have lots of building tools. If you need help just let me know. I've built several NJ legal AR-15 rifles.
    Last edited by digitalpaladin; 07-01-11 at 10:26.

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    Buy a .22 trainer like the S&W and shoot a lot more than 1000 rounds per year. You will get more practice and should be able to shoot it more often if there is an indoor range near you. Save your money for what you really want then, because you will never recover the investment of a low quality firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    RGN,

    This isn't a custom build topic. I encourage you to do some reading. You won't like my advice, but here it is. Save your pennies a little longer and make sure to get the right parts. In your case I advise not building an AR, but you have already ventured down the path.

    There is no need for you to have an AR right now. It's all about a want. Search for a quality off-the-shelf AR that will meet NJ's silly ass laws.
    What he said.
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    I second that
    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperAZ View Post
    What he said.

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    When I was younger (21), I really wanted an AR, I could not afford one. It was also still during the time of the Fed AWB.

    Like you I still really wanted something to shoot, and hold me over until I could afford an AR.

    I bought an AK, it was a WASR10. It was a POS, but went bang every time and I had a great time with it. It cost me 300$ shipped and transferred and came with 3x 30rnd. mags and one 40rnd. Ammo was also cheaper too, which allowed me to shoot more.

    Today I have a few very nice ARs I have built. I also still have the AK, I don't use it buts its nice just to have an example of one and understand how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperAZ View Post
    What he said.
    +1

    Or go with the other advise and but the SW .22 AR with non threaded bbl, pin the stock and go nuts with the bulk .22

    I hope you are living at home while going to school cause I can't imagine any NJ school allowing you to keep a firearm on campus. I got asked to talk to the "Student Life Admin" at NJIT for expressing pro gun views lol. And at the time I did not even own a firearm.

    I'm in central jersey if you need help and I know quite a few very qualified welders who can help with perming a brake onto a BBL. One did a BC1.5 on a Noveske 18" spr bbl for me and it looks great.

    Either way you go, good luck.

    My advice will sill align with IG.
    Last edited by Alex V; 07-01-11 at 10:53.
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    In Jersey anythings' legal, as long as you don't get caught.

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    Any personally owned AR15 that is not required for duty, no matter who it belongs to, is a want and not a need. On topic: This is how I look at it... If you really want one now, save a couple hundred more dollars and buy some quality parts or a quality off the shelf gun, that way when you are out of college you will have something worth keeping and not a trash-bin pile of shit that you will probably lose $2-300 on if you sold it, which is money could have been spent on a quality gun from the get-go. If you compromise now, you will lose money later when you decide to go with a serious weapon. Why have an AR around if you wouldn't feel comfortable taking it into harm's way?

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