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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    No. I would be choosing a Colt, DD, LMT or Noveske. All of those are "off the shelf".
    I realize that. I was curious as to what the general consensus was on the 'mass makers' (obviously Colt excluded because they crank out many, many of these) and who is on top of that realm...

    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    If you USE the ORANGE search button, and type in S&W M&P15 there will be plenty of information to choose from.
    I realize that. I'm learning that one must wade through hours of 'talk'to find the few posts that they are searching for. Is it faux pas to ask such questions in hopes of a quick one/two sentence response? Not being sarcastic here, just wondering how to get the most out of this site without spending an eternity wading through thousands of posts...

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    There are few "mass makers" that I would purchase. In fact, I prefer to build my own because I get exactly what I want at the price that I want it at.

    I recommend the SEARCH feature for one reason. There is no substitute for research. There are people like Grant who have provided plenty of information about S&W rifles and carbines.

    Quote Originally Posted by hunt_ak View Post
    I realize that. I was curious as to what the general consensus was on the 'mass makers' (obviously Colt excluded because they crank out many, many of these) and who is on top of that realm...


    I realize that. I'm learning that one must wade through hours of 'talk'to find the few posts that they are searching for. Is it faux pas to ask such questions in hopes of a quick one/two sentence response? Not being sarcastic here, just wondering how to get the most out of this site without spending an eternity wading through thousands of posts...



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    Agreed. Screw what others say and get what you want to get. When (yes, when) it breaks, learn to fix it. And when (yes, when) that breaks, fix it again.

    When you want to get a better AR-15, come back, read the site in detail and start saving up your money. I'm doing my build in pieces and saving up funds to build the best rifle I can afford, so I know it will go bang each and every time I pull the trigger. I'm like you- it's not a duty weapon, it not my primary home defense weapon, but I just love having the best of the best.

    If you want to plink thousands of ammo at a time though, get a .22 AR. They're fun to shoot with and is practically free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    The S&W shortcomings are few and known. I agree that it would be the most probable selection and with a few tweeks would be worthwhile.

    No. I would be choosing a Colt, DD, LMT or Noveske. All of those are "off the shelf".

    I was referring to an OTS in his price area since he doesn't want to wait.
    Just to clarify my recommendation of the Smith and Wesson M&P 15 Sport, I agree with all of the points Gunz has made. Given the option, I'd save a few more pennies and purchase a DD, Colt or BCM. My personal rifles are KAC, Noveske and LMT.

    That said, the buyer has laid out a budget (under $700) and a purpose (recreational range use), and given those parameters I think the M&P 15 Sport is the best option. While I haven't used the Sport, a member of my shooting group has a M&P 15 that has been very reliable, and I'm comfortable recommending S&W.

    As for the noted shortcomings, the Sport lacks a forward assist or a dustcover as cost savings measures. Were I dragging my rifle through dirt and mud in harms way, I'd want these features, but they are hardly essential on a range rifle and even some rare military issue rifles (Air Force GAU/5A) lack the forward assist. The barrel is a melonited 1 in 8" twist vice a MILSPEC chrome lined 1 in 7" twist, but I doubt most users would notice the difference, and I think this barrel is a better choice than many of the commercial 1 in 9" twist barrels that are offered at this price point. Again, my two cents.

    Here is a thread on the Sport. Here is another review.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Facejackets View Post
    Palmetto State Armory has a deal on , OE rifle kits. It's about $540, and all you need is a stripped lower
    anybody running one of those? it has good features.. i know the QC won't be up with a BCM or something.. but interesting....

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    This is the cheapest you can go for a no compromises, but no frill build from proven parts. (in my opinion).

    DD upper (smart gunner) 409
    DD bcg (aim) 130
    Mil spec charging handle 20
    Moe hand guards 35
    DD or Troy fixed rear sight 65
    Surplus ammo & arms stripped lower (aim) 60
    DD lpk (aim) 80
    BCM M4 stock kit 65

    Total 864 + any ffl transfer fees and shipping

    Buy the big stuff when you have the Money, and when the good deals are in stock. Quality stuff isn't much more money and will hold its value better if you need to sell it.

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    Your on the path but taking the detour toward the outhouse.

    Cheapest, decent quality, off the shelf, build project I've seen:
    Palmetto State Armory. Right around 550 OTD.

    However, I have seen basic factory Colts recently for right around your point of 700 (okay maybe as much as 800). Look around. Try CDNN.

    I got my first ar when I was in the military. Started building hardcore after I got out in 2005 when I was in grad school so I know all about building on a budget. A dedicated .22 was my second full build and this was before they were as popular (and inexpensive) as they are right now. A .22 AR is a beautiful thing. It's a gun a poor college student can afford to shoot and train with. Regularly. Team it up with one of the .22 pistol conversion of your choice and enjoy. If you need to get your hands on a real AR there is always ROTC. They give you guns for free! Hahaha

    PS: Get the hell out of NJ.

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