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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
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    Question about charging handles from a fellow 'wrong-side' AR-shooter...

    What advantages are there to the ambi-charging handles?

    I've been shooting ARs for probably 20 years and use my left "social" finger on the release handle (as opposed to right index finger). I moved a the BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 when they were introduced, and that only made manipulation easier. I'm just curious as to what advantages there are to having the latch on both sides.

    Many thanks in advance for your reply, and sorry for the slight thread-derail.


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    So you can do weapons manipulations the same way from both strong-side and weak-side. In the case of leftys, it's more important if you actually use your weapon on your strong side.
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    I think 16" midlength, LW barrel. I don't care which among the top ones but Daniel Defense has been reported to more accurate than average. everything else could be any of the better components mentioned above. I am kind of partial to my Geissele SSA triggers and BAD-CASS-ST selectors though...

    I would want an optic on my "only" gun. I think magnification with a good 1- 4 or more, scope covers more bases than a RDS alone. Right now I'm using the SWFA 1-6 and it's good. I don't have anything to compare it against but I had their 1-4 and liked it so I got this one when it became available. Very satisfied.

    I also would like to shoot heavier bullets all the time if I could. 75-77gr is ideal but since I have bunch of 69gr under my bench, I could live with that...
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    Mine hasn't changed much from my original post.


    My do all "package" contains

    14.5" Noveske Afghan w/ Vltor VIS
    Leupold Mk4 1.5 x 5
    Aimpoint M4s in a BOBRO mount and BUIS
    AAC M4-2000 Suppressor

    It's a tad heavy but man she runs.


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    This should end this conversation. I am changing my answer from page one to:

    A phased plasma rifle in a 40 watt range

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    Re: If you could only have 1 fighting rifle.......

    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
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    Question about charging handles from a fellow 'wrong-side' AR-shooter...

    What advantages are there to the ambi-charging handles?

    I've been shooting ARs for probably 20 years and use my left "social" finger on the release handle (as opposed to right index finger). I moved a the BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 when they were introduced, and that only made manipulation easier. I'm just curious as to what advantages there are to having the latch on both sides.

    Many thanks in advance for your reply, and sorry for the slight thread-derail.


    -Rainman
    Basically you are using 1960s manipulations, so the difference is transparent.

    Contemporary manipulations have the user running the charging handle by pinching the release lever side of the CH with the thumb and index finger, or, for those that like to break their latches and charging handles, use a knife-hand technique on the latch side of the CH.

    Putting a latch release on the right side of the CH permits shooters to use identical manipulations from either side.



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    Gonna update my answer.

    Colt 14.5'' SOCOM profile barrel cut to 11.5'' (leave gas port at .063'')
    KAC T3 brake + NT4 can. (Or MAMS when I get to shoot one. Whenever that happens. Lol.)
    KAC URX 3.1
    VLTOR MUR 1A upper
    Colt Bolt
    LMT Enhanced Carrier
    AXTS Raptor CH
    KAC Foregrip
    Surefire Scout in KAC mount
    Surefire SR-70 tape switch
    KAC 600m micro rear, and micro front BUIS
    KAC SR-15 lower + KAC trigger guard
    VLTOR A5 buffer kit, 5.1 oz A5 buffer, Sprinco GREEN M16 spring
    VLTOR ambi endplate (military loop style/non-qd)
    BlueForce Gear Vickers sling + QD kit (2-1 point)
    Aimpoint T1 + KAC mount + KAC battery cap + TangoDown IO Cover (Black)
    Aimpoint 3X magnifier + ADM mount
    TangoDown BG-16 (black) pistol grip
    LMT SOPMOD stock
    Magpul M3 PMAG windowed magazines (black)
    Hornady 77 gr. TAP

    When I get the money, and prioritize it, I'd like some NVG kit too. But it'd be useless without the training on how to use it properly, so I left it off the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainman View Post
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    Question about charging handles from a fellow 'wrong-side' AR-shooter...

    What advantages are there to the ambi-charging handles?

    I've been shooting ARs for probably 20 years and use my left "social" finger on the release handle (as opposed to right index finger). I moved a the BCM Gunfighter Mod 4 when they were introduced, and that only made manipulation easier. I'm just curious as to what advantages there are to having the latch on both sides.

    Many thanks in advance for your reply, and sorry for the slight thread-derail.


    -Rainman
    Kosh and Jack addressed it pretty competently, so I don't have much to add. Basically, it just eliminates the need for yet another "work-around" for a left-handed firer, making manipulations swifter, more positive and more intuitive. While you've found a system that works, it also is forcing you to remove your strong hand from fire control -- not a preferred method.

    Having a viable latch on the right side elimintates the need to reach over the top of the gun to access the standard latch. While that is something that we probably no longer even think about after years of training, it's admittedly a lot more convenient to be able to engage it without the need for rolling the the gun to starboard (or hunting for the latch with the the offside hand) any more than necessary. It's just a surer, more efficient approach.

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    Re: If you could only have 1 fighting rifle.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    Gonna update my answer.

    Colt 14.5'' SOCOM profile barrel cut to 11.5'' (leave gas port at .063'')
    KAC T3 brake + NT4 can. (Or MAMS when I get to shoot one. Whenever that happens. Lol.)
    KAC URX 3.1
    VLTOR MUR 1A upper
    Colt Bolt
    LMT Enhanced Carrier
    AXTS Raptor CH
    KAC Foregrip
    Surefire Scout in KAC mount
    Surefire SR-70 tape switch
    KAC 600m micro rear, and micro front BUIS
    KAC SR-15 lower + KAC trigger guard
    VLTOR A5 buffer kit, 5.1 oz A5 buffer, Sprinco GREEN M16 spring
    VLTOR ambi endplate (military loop style/non-qd)
    BlueForce Gear Vickers sling + QD kit (2-1 point)
    Aimpoint T1 + KAC mount + KAC battery cap + TangoDown IO Cover (Black)
    Aimpoint 3X magnifier + ADM mount
    TangoDown BG-16 (black) pistol grip
    LMT SOPMOD stock
    Magpul M3 PMAG windowed magazines (black)
    Hornady 77 gr. TAP

    When I get the money, and prioritize it, I'd like some NVG kit too. But it'd be useless without the training on how to use it properly, so I left it off the list.
    I don't like the adm magnifier mount at all... Flip to side is much better than rotate to side in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TehLlama View Post
    My 'one' rifle would be really close to this, with the exception of that optic - it's huge, and I'd give up capability at the top end of zoom for a bit more handiness elsewhere. Smaller optics are also cheaper - so if you find yourself considering upgrading to this, some minor changes (BCM/DD/Centurion/Noveske barrel with URX handguard instead of bespoke SR-15 upper; a 1-4x or 1-6x optic) can bring the price range actually substantially closer, without giving up much capability - but I really agree that for a pair of budget-irrelevant rifles, I'd want almost exactly what you outlined on the 5.56 one (I like the SSA-E over the SD-C, ACS-L over STR, and run a Mk6 Leupy), and have a .308 with the Mk8 optic.
    Yeah, good call. I haven't seen one in person, but realistically the 8x is not necessary on a 14.5" 5.56 rifle. I would probably opt for a 1-4 like I have now or maybe a 1-6.

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    If you could only have 1 fighting rifle.......

    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    ...snip...
    One of these days I'd really like to see some pics of all these crazy cut down barrel, urx rails, tiny gas ports, etc. I've owned most of what you listed there and the last thing I'd ever want as my ONLY FIGHTING RIFLE is one that's all crazy proprietary and rigged that also has a brake!

    But, with all the cut down KAC barrels and urx rails you have with super tiny gas ports and nt4 suppressors, you might know more than I do about how uber reliable that set up truly is.

    Still, I'd love to see just one single pic or the ultimate in flying unicorns, a video.... But I know that's asking a LOT!

    Personally, I'm still choosing a standard Colt 6921 or BCM 14.5" mid length with absolutely nothing proprietary and no brakes. There's very little I can't do with a 14.5" M4.
    Proven combat techniques may not be flashy and may require a bit more physical effort on the part of the shooter. Further, they may not win competition matches, but they will help ensure your survival in a shooting or gunfight on the street. ~ Paul Howe

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