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    I thought the .45ACP was supposed to put people down with one shot

    ... for all you "9mm aint-no 45" guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    After she shot himself he "fell back on his training" which was to call his mom.
    Yeah, that's kind of where my "he should of at least engaged the target" comment came from...

    The part that would save his life would be putting rounds on target, then collapsing in a heap while on the phone with his mom?

    Any idea if he did a facebook status update before calling 911?
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    Quote Originally Posted by montanadave View Post
    I'm not going to comment on this ND and the factors contributing to the accident, as there are members here with far more experience (both shooting and training) under different levels of stress with a variety of equipment than me. I'll let the experts perform the post-mortem.

    But drifting a tad off topic, I've noticed a trend in multiple threads (most recently this ND and another of a gun cleaning accident) for many to immediately decide that this "douche bag, ass clown, etc." has no business being around firearms and should devote his attentions to making macrame plant hangers or the like.

    And, yet, many of these same members are also staunch proponents of the 2nd amendment, bristling at any hint of modifications or additions to current gun control laws. Many would likely argue for significant repeal of current restrictions. And almost all would condemn any legislation or regulation which required handgun training or demonstrated proficiency prior to the purchase of a handgun.

    Shit happens. Accidents occur on a fairly routine basis (hang out at an ED over a holiday weekend). And some are easily preventable with a modicum of common sense or adult supervision. Others are just that, accidents.

    But it strikes me as more than a little curious that some who would argue that anyone with a pulse (at least for the time being) should have a firearm are so quick to advocate taking that same gun away.
    I just read through this thread top to bottom and I fail to see where anyone explicitly states or even implies that they are advocating the enactment of legislation or regulation that would require the demonstration of proficiency with a handgun prior to purchase, or anything else related to the use of government force to prevent things like this from happening.

    Saying that someone has no business around firearms and saying that the government should regulate who can buy/own a gun based on some theoretical proficiency standard are two very different things.

    There may be other threads that actually show this suggested disconnect in stance, but I don't see it at all in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVAN View Post
    Yeah, that's kind of where my "he should of at least engaged the target" comment came from...

    The part that would save his life would be putting rounds on target, then collapsing in a heap while on the phone with his mom?

    Any idea if he did a facebook status update before calling 911?
    I know, right? He had to send a tweet first though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buck View Post
    Death by Serpa holster...

    That is such a dangerous design... It's right up there in the competition with the Sig forward grip / trigger activated light combo, for being the most unsafe "tactical" product ever...

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    I'm going on about 10 years of daily carry and weekly training with a Serpa and no issues. Course I was taught to keep Mr. Finger off of Mr. Trigger until you are ready to fire.

    To me the most dangerous holsters I've ever seen is the "push..then pull" retention holsters. I can't tell you how many LE guys I've seen fumble with them during stressful practice. They won't cause a ND, but they might cause an unintentional round received.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    I'm going on about 10 years of daily carry and weekly training with a Serpa and no issues. Course I was taught to keep Mr. Finger off of Mr. Trigger until you are ready to fire.

    To me the most dangerous holsters I've ever seen is the "push..then pull" retention holsters. I can't tell you how many LE guys I've seen fumble with them during stressful practice. They won't cause a ND, but they might cause an unintentional round received.
    So the problem with the Serpa is a training issue, but the problem with the push/pull is something else?

    Can you cite a specific make/model of holster you're talking about? Are you referring to the police-style triple retention holster like the Safariland Model 070?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    After she shot himself he "fell back on his training" which was to call his mom.
    I wish I had of had some training when I shot myself. I didn't have any so I didn't know to call my mom. I just wrapped the wound up to stop the bleeding. 'Bout a week later it started bleeding again, a lot. The Principal who must have had some training called my Mom. As it happened my Dad was home and he came to see what the matter was. He examined the wound and rolled the imbedded bullet ( well, actually a BB ) around until it was under the hole, mashed a bit and popped the BB out like an overripe pimple. Got some blood and pus too. Didn't even earn me the rest of the day off. Good to have some training. So you know what to do when you shoot yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteyrAUG View Post
    .....Course I was taught to keep Mr. Finger off of Mr. Trigger until you are ready to fire....
    I got some training there, I was taught to keep your booger hook off the bang switch until you are ready to fire. I guess that's the same thing.

    I gotta get some more training.

    What I liked was the way his britches inflated when he fired the shot.

    He's lucky he didn't blow his damn knee off.
    Last edited by Suwannee Tim; 07-05-11 at 14:31.

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    Quote Originally Posted by outrider627 View Post
    Farva needs to stop playing with guns and drink his litre of soda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    Can you cite a specific make/model of holster you're talking about? Are you referring to the police-style triple retention holster like the Safariland Model 070?
    I picture their Raptor Series.

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    Middle link isn't working... That guy is a knucklehead and should devote a little more time to real training instead of trying to impress his "good friends" on Youtube.

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