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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    The SERPA holster is a piece of crap
    no matter how advanced or well designed a holster is, it wont fix a stupid shooter that didn't have his weapon on safe when suppose to. If he had his weapon on safe when it should've been, an ND would not have happened even with Serpa's less than optimal design. Focusing the blame on the holster is like blaming a car accident on crappy brakes despite the driver driving 100+ mph at the wrong time. Completely missing the true cause of this accident.

    The weakest link in any accident is the human being, they will always find some way to screw something up even with the most well designed safety systems - whether it be lowsy training or bypassing safety equipment. This is a classic example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag View Post
    Did Yeager throw up after the review? He couldnt take "Tex" seriously no matter how hard he tried lol.
    Couldn't tell you. Haven't trained with Yeager nor do I plan to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForTehNguyen View Post
    no matter how advanced or well designed a holster is, it wont fix a stupid shooter that didn't have his weapon on safe when suppose to. If he had his weapon on safe when it should've been, an ND would not have happened even with Serpa's less than optimal design. Focusing the blame on the holster is like blaming a car accident on crappy brakes despite the driver driving 100+ mph at the wrong time. Completely missing the true cause of this accident.

    The weakest link in any accident is the human being, they will always find some way to screw something up even with the most well designed safety systems - whether it be lowsy training or bypassing safety equipment. This is a classic example.
    This holster is made for plenty of guns with no manual safetys, such as the m&p, Glocks, XD's, etc. Faulting the condition of the manual safety on the gun in this single example doesn't mean much. If the design didn't require the user to go smashing their finger towards the bang switch, it wouldn't matter if the thumb and grip safety were both disengaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ForTehNguyen View Post
    no matter how advanced or well designed a holster is, it wont fix a stupid shooter that didn't have his weapon on safe when suppose to. If he had his weapon on safe when it should've been, an ND would not have happened even with Serpa's less than optimal design. Focusing the blame on the holster is like blaming a car accident on crappy brakes despite the driver driving 100+ mph at the wrong time. Completely missing the true cause of this accident.

    The weakest link in any accident is the human being, they will always find some way to screw something up even with the most well designed safety systems - whether it be lowsy training or bypassing safety equipment. This is a classic example.
    While what some of what you said is absolutely true, the safety on a 1911 does not cause the pistol to fire. You need to pull the trigger just like any other modern pistol. Disengaging the safety was not the cause of Tex shooting himself in the leg. Putting his finger on the trigger and pulling it during the draw-stroke was, plain & simple. The SERPA holster design makes this event much more likely to happen regardless of the type of pistol or placement of, or complete lack of manual safety on the pistol. The thumb safety is completely irrelevant to this incident in my opinion.
    Last edited by nickdrak; 07-09-11 at 15:45.

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    It's pretty much the definition of bad design. Smart people will find ways around bad design (or bad process for that matter). Good design ENHANCES process or activity. This clearly ain't it. Bad design hurts the activity, but is usually circumventable. This guy maybe wasn't smart enough. Some of you are. That still pretty much makes it bad design (I'm a VP of Engineering, so I either design things or manage people who design things for a living).
    Last edited by noops; 07-09-11 at 16:04. Reason: grammar

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    Has to be seen to believe:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK4PhRAVhPA

    From that vid, shooting himself was not an "if" but "when" thing. At least he didn't shoot his balls off showing the above. Someone who really gives gun owners a bad name and why not everyone should have access to the 'net!

    On the ND vid, thought he was a harmless, albeit clueless guy, doing stupid human tricks on the net. Now, I think he's dangerous to others also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Has to be seen to believe:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK4PhRAVhPA

    From that vid, shooting himself was not an "if" but "when" thing. At least he didn't shoot his balls off showing the above. Someone who really gives gun owners a bad name and why not everyone should have access to the 'net!

    On the ND vid, thought he was a harmless, albeit clueless guy, doing stupid human tricks on the net. Now, I think he's dangerous to others also.

    I don't think this guy should be the one to determine what is and isn't safe. Wonder what his username is on TOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WillBrink View Post
    Has to be seen to believe:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK4PhRAVhPA

    From that vid, shooting himself was not an "if" but "when" thing. At least he didn't shoot his balls off showing the above. Someone who really gives gun owners a bad name and why not everyone should have access to the 'net!

    On the ND vid, thought he was a harmless, albeit clueless guy, doing stupid human tricks on the net. Now, I think he's dangerous to others also.
    I don't get the camo cowboy hat schtick either.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    I don't get the camo cowboy hat schtick either.....
    If you have Boar Spears on the wall, might as well have a camo cowboy hat.
    It's hard to be a ACLU hating, philosophically Libertarian, socially liberal, fiscally conservative, scientifically grounded, agnostic, porn admiring gun owner who believes in self determination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOPLOETHOS View Post
    +1 having your finger in trigger guard before your muzzle is on target is not a good idea as evidenced by this ND.
    You're right, people are over complicating this. The guy was simply going too fast a stuck his finger on the trigger before he should have.

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