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Thread: 3" Inch 9mm Carry Loads?

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    3" Inch 9mm Carry Loads?

    With all of the Micro 9mm pistols currently the new fade with CCW owners I was wondering what if any of DocGKR's approved carry/duty loads would offer acceptable performance in a 3" inch barrel.

    Now most likely the best choices maybe the Barnes XPB 105 & 115 gr JHP (copper bullet) or Speer 9mm +P Short Barrel loading but I have not seen any data to confirm either as a viable short barrel loading.

    I remember in a old thread some talk on the now discontinued Winchester Partition Gold 124 gr JHP (RA91P) being a decent short barrel loading but can't find that thread under a forum search.
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    HST 147gr or 124gr +P

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    Quote Originally Posted by brzusa.1911 View Post
    HST 147gr or 124gr +P
    Can I ask what data you are basing your choice on that qualify these loadings acceptable with 3.0 inch barrels?

    Thanks!
    Phila PD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phila PD View Post
    Can I ask what data you are basing your choice on that qualify these loadings acceptable with 3.0 inch barrels?

    Thanks!
    Phila PD
    Basing on ballistics data I have found when researching for my EMP 9mm.

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    Review Molon's chrono posts on this...basically 147's suffer less velocity loss out of short barrels. Federal sells both standard and +P 147gr HST loads that would be a good option.

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    147 gr doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling when it comes to 3" barrels. I guess I just haven't seen enough data. It just seems too close to the reliable expansion window velocity wise.

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    I've seen the Gold Dot SB tested from Glock 26s and Kahr PM9s, it does exactly what you would want it to.

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    I've had good results with the 147gr HST and Ranger T. If you don't feel comfortable with the 147gr, give the Ranger RA9TA 127gr +P+ a shot.

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    My 3" gun is a Kahr PM9. I use the same ammunition in it as in my larger 9mm's, which is winchester Ranger T series 147 JHP.

    It's been awhile since I studied it. (I've had the Kahr since 2005.) But when I looked into it at the time, the velocity loss from the 147 gr loads by going from a 4" to a 3" barrel wasn't all that much.

    I worry more about shot placement with the little guns than I do about losing a few FPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kh86 View Post
    147 gr doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy feeling when it comes to 3" barrels. I guess I just haven't seen enough data. It just seems too close to the reliable expansion window velocity wise.
    OK. Whats the expansion window for 147gr loads?

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