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Thread: Gas Port size on Noveske

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    Measuring a hole is "reverse engineering"? Really?
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    If it were me I would use the A5 system. Only because I have seen it work across the board with carbines, midlengths and SBR's.

    Quote Originally Posted by amac View Post
    I here you. With each new weapon, I learn more and more about functionality - what works and with what, etc... As mentioned, this is my first SBR. I feel like a kid waiting on Christmas - and it's January! The rifle is stuck at Lawmens. The tax stamp is waiting on Gomer at the ATF. You know the drill. I just want to shoot the damn thing!

    Waiting sucks. So, I diagnose based on others' posts. I almost ordered an A5 buffer system b/c others did so for their SBR's. It's a disease I tell you - running rampant throughout these forums.

    As for gas port size, while seemingly inconsequential, I wanted to know for personal, technical reasons. I do plan to suppress and feel this info may come be useful. I already knew I needed an H2 buffer - based on what I've read on M4C.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kartoffel View Post
    Measuring a hole is "reverse engineering"? Really?
    Yes. You don't have to agree, but a lot of care and research goes into these details.

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    Todd, what buffer are your Recon barrels meant for?

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    We use the H buffer in 14.5" + barrels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonAAC View Post
    Yes. You don't have to agree, but a lot of care and research goes into these details.
    Reverse engineering to me, means duplicating somebody's process, or stealing not just a dimension, but the tolerances as well.

    It's obvious that Noveske puts a great deal of skill and attention into their guns. It should also be blindingly obvious to anyone that once you own a part, you can take it apart and measure it. Neither Noveske nor anyone else is at risk of losing money because somebody measured a hole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kartoffel View Post
    Reverse engineering to me, means duplicating somebody's process, or stealing not just a dimension, but the tolerances as well.

    It's obvious that Noveske puts a great deal of skill and attention into their guns. It should also be blindingly obvious to anyone that once you own a part, you can take it apart and measure it. Neither Noveske nor anyone else is at risk of losing money because somebody measured a hole.
    If had the capabilities of building an AR-15 that is similar to a Noveske rifle, I would take a Noveske Rifle and break it down to all the parts taking note of all dimensions, tolerances, etc. Which includes the measurement of that gas port, so yes, it's part of the process in reverse engineering that rifle.
    Professionalism, it goes a long way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kartoffel View Post
    Anyone with a pin gage and cash to buy a Noveske barrel can measure one. If Noveske is that uptight about losing their "secret" information, they're in the wrong business.
    I'd simply crack out the gauge pins and start dropping 'em in the hole, IF I wanted to know the exact diameter of the gas port. I don't care what size it is, and not that I'd know what buffer to run on that barrel length - even if I knew the diameter. But really, I don't see that type of information as a requiring trade protection. I think it's a 'little funny' that they won't specifically tell you; makes it appear as if there's something to hide. There isn't. It's just a hole. Not any big secret as you could easily determine the information for yourself.

    That said, their products have a great reputation for reliability and if Noveske tells you to run an 'H' buffer with your barrel then just use it. If that doesn't work for whatever reason, give them a call and they will help you out.

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