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    Taking an SBR to NC 5320.20 Problems, advice needed

    Ok, so me and a good friend are wanting to go to NC from SC for a class, taking our SBR's with us. We both send in a 5320.20 to the NFA branch to get approval for the trip. I filled out both his form and my form, exactly the same. Same destination address and method of transportation, same reason for going (training). Both forms go to the same examiner (Samantha Santamaria) as both were mailed out at the same time.
    Now we both have the same purpose for ownership on our Form 1, sporting purposes.

    His comes back approved, mine comes back disapproved, with a reference to it being a violation of NC law to have an SBR there for any other reason that the couple exceptions that NC permits one. She sent me a photocopy of the NC law statute.

    So what gives? I am almost certain I have had a 5320.20 approved to go to NC in the past, and why would his get the GTG and mine get a FAIL?

    Any insight as to what I can/should do?
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    That's a tough one. All of my forms state my reason for ownership as "Scientific research, development, testing, collecting, shooting, and all other lawful purposes". I would just call your examiner and see if you can rectify the situation.

    Now the absurdity here is that we JUST passed a law that goes into effect December 1st that brings NC into line with other NFA-friendly states. This doesn't help you now, but it will for courses after Dec 1.

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    Just fill it out stating the reason as one of the exceptions for which they do permit SBRs (scientific or R&D purposes). Throw a couple of slings in your range bag, and if anyone asks tell them that your'e developing a new sling or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshNC View Post
    That's a tough one. All of my forms state my reason for ownership as "Scientific research, development, testing, collecting, shooting, and all other lawful purposes". I would just call your examiner and see if you can rectify the situation.

    Now the absurdity here is that we JUST passed a law that goes into effect December 1st that brings NC into line with other NFA-friendly states. This doesn't help you now, but it will for courses after Dec 1.
    Sorry for the thread jack, but can you expound on the recent laws? There is a possibility of my moving to NC and I am curious. I googled the recent laws and got mostly information about the castle doctrine and carrying in state parks.

    What does the law state that brings it into line with other NFA-friendly states? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JEL458 View Post
    Sorry for the thread jack, but can you expound on the recent laws? There is a possibility of my moving to NC and I am curious. I googled the recent laws and got mostly information about the castle doctrine and carrying in state parks.

    What does the law state that brings it into line with other NFA-friendly states? Thanks
    Basically states that title-2 firearms owned in accordance with Federal law are legal in NC. Like other states, the code reads that title-2 firearms are illegal under NC law, with certain exemptions. One of the exemptions added was anyone who owns said title-2 items in accordance with Federal law.

    This is good, very good, for those of us in NC!!!

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    That's just weird. I have been submitting a 5320 for my SBRs (both of them) for use in Viking Tactics courses in NC for more than 3-years and I have never been rejected. In fact, I do it for 12-month periods because I have been known to take multiple courses in one year.

    Did you call the the NFA Branch to get clarification for this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlosDJackal View Post
    That's just weird. I have been submitting a 5320 for my SBRs (both of them) for use in Viking Tactics courses in NC for more than 3-years and I have never been rejected. In fact, I do it for 12-month periods because I have been known to take multiple courses in one year.

    Did you call the the NFA Branch to get clarification for this?
    I tried, this particular examiner is on vacation at the moment.

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    As stated above you simply need to change your purpose to whats required here in NC. Good luck.

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    Sorry for the thread hijack but I figured it was better than starting a new thread.

    Hypothetically, if say, I were to take my registered SBR lower with a 16" upper, along with my paperwork and a buddy had an SBR upper reciever that he was going to let me use in a different state, is that legal? It's technically not transporting an SBR across state lines, but with the lower being the serial numbered part, and being registered as an SBR, wouldn't it be basically the same thing? I've heard that if the rifle is in a 16"+ configuration and you leave the SBR upper at home, the rifle doesn't fall under purview of NFA.

    I'm pretty sure someone has the potential to be boned in the above situation. I figured it's better to ask than assume. I don't want one of my guys going to jail on post-deployment leave for weapons charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viperashes View Post
    Sorry for the thread hijack but I figured it was better than starting a new thread.

    Hypothetically, if say, I were to take my registered SBR lower with a 16" upper, along with my paperwork and a buddy had an SBR upper reciever that he was going to let me use in a different state, is that legal? It's technically not transporting an SBR across state lines, but with the lower being the serial numbered part, and being registered as an SBR, wouldn't it be basically the same thing? I've heard that if the rifle is in a 16"+ configuration and you leave the SBR upper at home, the rifle doesn't fall under purview of NFA.

    I'm pretty sure someone has the potential to be boned in the above situation. I figured it's better to ask than assume. I don't want one of my guys going to jail on post-deployment leave for weapons charges.

    You can transport your registered lower with a 16+" upper without a 5320. Problem is by attaching your friends shorty upper you convert your gun into its SBR status.....which is now across state lines without approval.

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