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Thread: PSA Hammer Forged Uppers Made by FN for $400!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 120mm View Post
    Ummm... how is selling a "part" that is not a violation of federal regulations illegal? FN can produce what it wants and sell to whom it wants, provided it doesn't violate the terms of it's agreement with the US government. And I'm pretty sure that selling gun barrels is what FN does. Whether they are sold separately or as part of a complete firearm.

    Now, if FN started marketing M16A2s to the civilian market, or revealing the proprietary parts of it's TDP, they might get in trouble.
    See Grants post, thats mainly what I was going off of, https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=83917

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    First off, M16 and M4 barrels are not hammer forged. Neither Colt or FN makes them that way.

    They are button rifled.

    FN cannot sell AR15 components to any civilian, foreign LE/MIL, or domestic LE organization by contract.

    So this whole story about FN hammer forged AR15 type barrels is bullshit.

    The fact that this thread has allowed to go on page two without a decisive post by a Senior Member, SME, IP, etc to put an end to this nonsense is troubling.
    Last edited by scottryan; 07-14-11 at 10:22.
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    And real mil grade uppers don't sell for $400 either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    And real mil grade uppers don't sell for $400 either.
    Or maybe other companies are just overcharging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merle View Post
    Or maybe other companies are just overcharging.

    Um no.

    PSA is misleading.

    It says on their website:

    "Manufactured right here in South Carolina using the finest "machine gun steel", which is a patented blend developed by FN and used for their government contracts. This steel is designed to exceed all military requirements and is the same blend used in FN's M16, M240 and M249 barrels."


    FACT:
    M16 barrels are not made the same as M249/M240 barrels.

    FACT: FN didn't invent the "blend of steel" for the M16 barrel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Um no.

    PSA is misleading.

    Well, Palmetto State Armory is a sponsoring dealer on here on M4C with their own sub forum. I don't have a dog in the fight one way or the other, but if you're going to say that a site sponsor is purposefully misleading consumers, I hope you have something to back that up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Um no.

    PSA is misleading.

    It says on their website:

    "Manufactured right here in South Carolina using the finest "machine gun steel", which is a patented blend developed by FN and used for their government contracts. This steel is designed to exceed all military requirements and is the same blend used in FN's M16, M240 and M249 barrels."


    FACT:
    M16 barrels are not made the same as M249/M240 barrels.

    FACT: FN didn't invent the "blend of steel" for the M16 barrel.
    It's definitely disingenuous, but I don't think it rises to the level of "misleading".

    To say they are FN barrels sounds like typical salesman bullshit.

    But, we'll see.

    Frankly, I think PSA carbines make sense, as long as you avoid putting too much money in them. The basic $600 carbine makes sense to me as a beater/truck/loaner gun, and mainly out of curiousity as to how good/bad they are. Once you start "upgrading" them, you'd be better off with a used Colt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    Um no.

    PSA is misleading.

    It says on their website:

    "Manufactured right here in South Carolina using the finest "machine gun steel", which is a patented blend developed by FN and used for their government contracts. This steel is designed to exceed all military requirements and is the same blend used in FN's M16, M240 and M249 barrels."


    FACT:
    M16 barrels are not made the same as M249/M240 barrels.

    FACT: FN didn't invent the "blend of steel" for the M16 barrel.
    I can put together an upper like that using a Daniel Defense chf m4 barrel and an Aero Precision stripped upper for around $415 without bcg and charging handle with paying tax and shipping so I don't think that a company would have a problem putting a quality upper together and selling it for $400. They probably won't make a huge profit on one alone but if They sell 100 They probably do alright.

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    Misleading, disingenuous?

    A PSA rep is on "another' site, specifically saying they are made for PSA by FN.

    Call it whatever but it's either true or they better "revise" that statement?

    just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pork Chop View Post
    Misleading, disingenuous?

    A PSA rep is on "another' site, specifically saying they are made for PSA by FN.

    Call it whatever but it's either true or they better "revise" that statement?

    just sayin.
    You are right. It either is, or it isn't. If whoever orders one of these things will let us know, once they receive their upper, if the barrel is FN marked or whatever, that will clear things up.

    If not, somebody ain't telling the truth.

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