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Thread: Do you think building your own defensive rifle is a legal nightmare?

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    On the subject of "hair trigger"

    I once owned a paintball gun that had an adjustable electronic trigger. Pretty common today. I could tune it down so low that I could point it straight up to the sky and if need be shake it a tad so that gravity would take over and set the trigger off.

    2.5+ lbs. is not "hair trigger" matterial. Your going to have to look to an old school double/set trigger setup to get close to that.

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    Ironic:
    Getting crabbed at because of the desire for a different/custom/perhaps better trigger makes puts you at risk of being a vigilante in the eyes of the court, yet taking a class where they teach firearms, how to use them, and presumably how to be effective and efficent with them isn't considered training murderers...

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    Nope not an issue unless you live in a liberal state /locality! Cause if your DA is an anti firearm SOB they will use anything they can to prosecute you! It's a crap shoot- choose to live in the Liberal world and you take the chance of being screwed by them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTifosi View Post
    Ironic:
    Getting crabbed at because of the desire for a different/custom/perhaps better trigger makes puts you at risk of being a vigilante in the eyes of the court, yet taking a class where they teach firearms, how to use them, and presumably how to be effective and efficent with them isn't considered training murderers...
    Wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GunnutAF View Post
    Nope not an issue unless you live in a liberal state /locality! Cause if your DA is an anti firearm SOB they will use anything they can to prosecute you! It's a crap shoot- choose to live in the Liberal world and you take the chance of being screwed by them!
    Yea, let the truth be told...that's pretty much it. It's not innocent until proven guilty but, Guilty until proven innocent.

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    I think there's some truth to it, sure.
    However, I also think there's the ability to defend yourself in court. - [if you have to at all]

    As pitiful as it is, shouldn't you be willing to go to jail in exchange to stopping a threat and saving lives? sure of course.
    People who carry or choose to act in a defensive role have taken on a huge responsibility.

    I think we can get very political about firearms and all, but I feel that it is really your choice if you want that round on target.

    For sure the rule can apply, but it also might not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTifosi View Post
    Ironic:
    Getting crabbed at because of the desire for a different/custom/perhaps better trigger makes puts you at risk of being a vigilante in the eyes of the court, yet taking a class where they teach firearms, how to use them, and presumably how to be effective and efficent with them isn't considered training murderers...
    Can you show me a case where someone was prosecuted for a different/custom gun where they did not do something wrong that made the shooting unjustiifed, or where the shooting took place in a state where an AR is otherwise legal to own and is legally owned by the shooter?

    I've read about situations where shooters have gotten in trouble for using a certain firearm, but invariably they would have been in trouble if they used a double barrelled shotgun failed to fit the guidelines of the law or legal environment.
    Last edited by Ed L.; 07-20-11 at 00:30.

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    Nope, sure can't. That was the point.

    In the OP, a LEO instructing a firearms class is the one who said having modded stuff can cause issues.

    I found it ironic that having a cop teach someone how to be firearms proficient is a good plan, but modifications to a firearm to help that proficiency can make life uglier than it would already be if it went to court, as said by the LEO who was teaching proficiency.

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    This is all about situational awareness. It just completely depends on where you live. Where I live now, I have no fear of using a suppressed SBR for home defense. We have no-retreat, Castle Doctrine, and civil immunity from a justified shooting where I live.

    Where I used to live in the PRNJ, where you are required to retreat until you can physically retreat no further then start reasoning with and hugging your attacker in hopes of rehabilitating him before you even consider physical violence, I would use the prettiest blue and walnut Winchester 94 Trapper in .45 Colt with the biggest, heaviest lead wadcutter target loads I could find. and I would make sure I attended one or two Cowboy Action shoots a year, just to give the newspapers something to find. And my name would be Rompin' Roy or some gay innocuous shit like that, not The Terminatin' Peacemaker Kid.

    I doubt if anyone can produce any case law that shows where an otherwise clean shooter was hung just for the kind of weapon he used, but again depending on your locality you might want to at least take it into consideration. And remember what's ok for me might not be ok for you in the Eastern Megalopolis.
    Last edited by QuietShootr; 07-20-11 at 08:07.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kh86 View Post
    It really comes down to *ugh, sigh* how "justified" the victim was in their case of self defense... and then you move on from there.
    End of story.

    Just stick to a full size .38spc and or a duck gun and you'll be fine :/
    There's a lot of goofballs out there who indeed lock up the AR at night and grab the bird gun for Home Defense.
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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