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Thread: Unbelievably , absurdly long rail systems

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    I have a 13-inch Troy VTAC.

    While the extra weight out front does effect the center of mass (and therefore balance), I wouldn't describe it as cumbersome at all.

    Being able to run my support hand farther out offsets any of the minor disadvantage of the slight weight increase. My grip naturally falls right behind my DD fixed sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Animal_Mother556 View Post
    Thank you, gents. You mentioned tall shooters feeling cramped. That's me. I am at about 6 foot 3. I have been running carbine length forends for a while now...I've had enough. I love shooting dad's A2, because I can grab way up by the FSB...much more comfortable and controlling.

    BTW that BCM is exactly what I had in mind...thanks for posting the pic.
    Yeah. I'm 6'4", and I run a "Rifle Length" hand-guard on my carbine length gun (low profile gas block) so that I can reach out and control the muzzle much better. This is on my 3-Gun Carbine, so it's not a SHTF gun. There's no irons on it. Optic only.

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    I know adding weight to compensate for weight is kinda frowned upon, but for the x amount that another inch or two of rail adds wouldn't it be easily counterbalanced by an equally small amount of weight added aft?

    Like a battery sized slug of lead in a stock's battery compartment or a small piece to fit in the very rear of a standard stock's cleaning kit pocket. Not one of those big fill the whole cavity things, just a small amount molded in a foil die for a tailored fit.

    If balanced properly it would 'feel' light due to that balance, or at least shouldn't be as hard to sweep as an old muzzle loader with all its weight way out there --->

    If that in turn allows for a better grip and/or longer sight radius, then perhaps it might be worth it?

    'Course if that was really a bad plan, and the weight out at the nose was bothersome enough, I suppose one could always resort to that old tried and true method: extra holes.

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    I run DD rails on 14.5, 16 and 18 inch guns. All good stuff.
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    The 15" TRX Extreme may be a good choice for you. Or the Midwest industries SS15". Allows you to get a longer sight radius and grip further out the rail. Do you have long arms? If so you will love the SS15". I've used it and I did.

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    The Troy TRX Extreme is not heavy at all. It is significantly less in the 13" variety than other 12" quad rail systems including DD. DD also has a nice looking similar type of system but I have not used one or weighed one yet.

    Light is better in my opinion for a carbine but a long but light system like the TRX Extreme and similar systems don't add more weight than shorter systems of other types.
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    I prefer to run a light forward of the front sight at 12 or 9 o'clock so on a carbine length with a fixed FSB I like a notched FSP cutout type of rail. Without a fixed FSB I actually like about 13" of rail to push my hand slightly further out while keeping a 12 o'clock light position. For my style / arm length on a carbine I really don't need a rail beyond 13" in length.

    On my SBR I like a 9" rail cutout for the FSP to keep a bit more extension on the carbine length set up. But on this set up, I adjust the overall length of pull via the stock position.

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    I have a 14 inch DD on a 16 inch rifle. I like it alot. Check out the DD it would be a good fit.

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    I can weld two 15" rails together for you if you want.

    What's the point of an "absurdly long rail" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTifosi View Post
    I know adding weight to compensate for weight is kinda frowned upon, but for the x amount that another inch or two of rail adds wouldn't it be easily counterbalanced by an equally small amount of weight added aft?

    Like a battery sized slug of lead in a stock's battery compartment or a small piece to fit in the very rear of a standard stock's cleaning kit pocket. Not one of those big fill the whole cavity things, just a small amount molded in a foil die for a tailored fit.

    If balanced properly it would 'feel' light due to that balance, or at least shouldn't be as hard to sweep as an old muzzle loader with all its weight way out there --->

    If that in turn allows for a better grip and/or longer sight radius, then perhaps it might be worth it?

    'Course if that was really a bad plan, and the weight out at the nose was bothersome enough, I suppose one could always resort to that old tried and true method: extra holes.
    I don't think rails - or quality rails rather - really add that much more weight. It's usually a matter of a couple ounces between a 9" and 12-15" rail.

    If you really wanted to shave a decent amount of weight - go with a lightweight barrel. Or have your barrel dimpled. There's a lot of advantages to a longer rail. I'll always try and have as much barrel covered as possible - and we can't own SBRs here in MI.

    Most people I hear complain about long rails being front heavy generally have 9 million XTM panels hung on their rail. With a nice rail - It's really not needed since the corners are well rounded.

    I think the Troy TRX is considered such a ligthweight rig over something like a DD quad rail is because the Troy will NOT allow users to hang rail covers.

    But you can always add a heavier stock - I.E. EMOD or UBR or SOPMOD.

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