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    IMO they were using people as Beta testers. In any case if you want to pitch them get an infomercial spot on TV. If you would like to educate us and post some detailed knowledge of it then by all means do so. Anything resembling "shill posts" will be smacked down.



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    Like many people, I originally bought into the LWRC "hi tech" marketing, and thought it's the best thing since sliced bread. It wasn't until I bought and shot the M6A3 when I realized it's really just an overweight and un-proven system that sounded great on paper, but ultimately with dubious reliability record. Provided, I didn't shot it long enough to see whether it's reliable or not. Though I can tell you that a properly built DI AR, like the BCM middy I've since got, has never had a single failure of any kind in all the time I've shot it.

    I kept the LWRC lower, and I can tell you from personal experience the LPK used in it isn't as high quality as I expected from the price tag. Sometimes manufacturers will cut back on the little things in order to save a few bucks (like cast vs machined safety selector, and selector detent), and it's through those little things you'll see quality.

    At the end of the day, I decided to put reliability at the top, and stick to AR's operating based on their original design principle: via DI. If I want a piston gun, I'll get one designed from the ground up as a piston gun, like the SCAR (though the jury is still out on that one), or the Steyr AUG (which has much longer proven service history).

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    I had LWRCi guns. Ran fine. Moved on. Don't regret it. They're nothing special.

    KAC, LMT, Daniel Defence, Centurion, Colt, and BCM are better options, for often cheaper prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    I had LWRCi guns. Ran fine. Moved on. Don't regret it. They're nothing special.

    KAC, LMT, Daniel Defence, Centurion, Colt, and BCM are better options, for often cheaper prices.
    That about sums it up for me as well.
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    It's good to see LWRC's employees are still astroturfing the gun forums!
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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    I have an LWRC upper. I have basically given up on it.

    It started off life shaving brass (lots of little flakes all over the bolt face and barrel extension. It also have very common failure to feeds.

    There was obvious signs of carrier tilt.

    Lastly I noticed it was eating up op-rod springs. In as soon as 500rnds it would peen the spring over the end of the op rod. When removed from the gun it was curved and much shorter than a new one. Also the end that was peened over the op-rod was opened up.

    I think the fact that the whole piston system falls apart WHEN the spring fails is a huge design flaw. Its all fine and well it can run forever with out cleaning. But the op-rod spring is going to fail before it needs to be cleaned. So in the end what good is not needing to clean it if it will fail else where.

    I have sent the upper back to LWRC they replaced the receiver and sent it back with no explanation.

    The LWRC was one of my big learning experiences early in the AR game for me.

    I wish I had spent the money for an upper on something like a full KAC SR15 carbine.

    Oh well, live and learn.

    I have built a few guns since and love them. I have used mostly LMT, Daniel denfense, VLTOR and Noveske parts for them. They are amazing.

    The LWRC was heavy and had an awful sharp recoil impulse. My DI guns are a pleasure to shoot.

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    I've owned two LWRCs. A REPR and a PSD upper. The PSD was ok but you don't get much for the high price tag. I bought it back when it first came out and I'll admit for a VERY short time, I bought into the piston fad. I can get a KAC with a $300 trigger, SOPMOD kit, high quality rail that had a very high price tag a while back, a $500+ bolt carrier group and a KAC rear sight.

    For about the same price, I can get the LWRC with a GI trigger, less expensive Vltor stock, Troy sights, a $350 bolt carrier group and whatever parts they use in the lower.

    Now, even though you do get an extra pound of materials, everything else is less expensive and some is lower quality. So, I just don't see the value... What the heck are we getting for all that money, a piston system? No thanks.

    I learned my lesson quickly with piston guns. Even though they ran fine, I just don't see the value and won't be buying any more. I have an LMT mk18 upper with a Daniel Defense RIS II rail. It seems every single part is manufactured to a higher standard than the PSD upper which costs twice as much. Unfortunately, I knew better when I fell for the piston marketing, but I bought them anyway. Though it only lasted 2 or 3 months, I ended up with the MRP 12" and the PSD 8" uppers. The REPR is a little different and though it was a decent rifle, I'll take my SCAR H any day of the week.
    Last edited by jonconsiglio; 08-04-11 at 11:46.
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    I like my LWRCi M6 with DD rails alot. I bought it stock and it keeps running. I do not know what the issue is and with all the issues on cost because it is not more than a Colt was back in 2008. I bought mine for $1450 and got a rail for $150 from DD as a blem.

    Now I have a aimpoint M4 on it and it balances better than my DD lightweight rifle. Feels lighter than my 14.5 middy. Maybe something is wrong...

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    LWRC owner here as well, I have an older (made in VA) M6A2 in 6.8 SPC. While I probably will never sell it, I wont buy another one. Mine has had no failure issues whatsoever, runs like the rest of my guns.

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    I love that LWRC commercial with Jeff Gonzales. LWRC is the only gun he'd take into combat!!
    "You people have too much time on your hands." - scottryan

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