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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I'll continue my hijack...

    You cannot zero an AR in 5.56/.223 at 50 yards. It is physically impossible.

    Ok since we're going to go on with it, I completely disagree. Pick a shooting spot, measure off 50yds and hang a target with a dot in the middle. Shoot at the dot, adjusting your optic until you hit that dot every time (accuracy of whatever ammo your using aside). Your trying to tell me that isn't a 50 yd zero?

    Again I'm not saying it's the same as a 200 yd zero and I'm not magically expecting the two to line up but to say it's physically impossible to zero at 50 yds is just asinine.


    ETA: Molon (and I'm sure others) also don't seem to think its impossible

    From here

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I'll continue my hijack...

    You cannot zero an AR in 5.56/.223 at 50 yards. It is physically impossible.
    I hate to go off topic, but why is a 50 yard zero impossible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveL View Post
    I hate to go off topic, but why is a 50 yard zero impossible?
    Because a zero is not the same thing as an initial intersection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icculus View Post
    Ok since we're going to go on with it, I completely disagree. Pick a shooting spot, measure off 50yds and hang a target with a dot in the middle. Shoot at the dot, adjusting your optic until you hit that dot every time (accuracy of whatever ammo your using aside). Your trying to tell me that isn't a 50 yd zero?

    Again I'm not saying it's the same as a 200 yd zero and I'm not magically expecting the two to line up but to say it's physically impossible to zero at 50 yds is just asinine.


    ETA: Molon (and I'm sure others) also don't seem to think its impossible

    From here

    That graph does not show a 50 yard zero. A 50 yard zero is physically impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    That graph does not show a 50 yard zero. A 50 yard zero is physically impossible.

    Whatever man. Enjoy the targets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Icculus View Post
    Whatever man. Enjoy the targets
    I will. I will use them to obtain a 100 yard zero.

    If I hang them at 50 yards, I will use them to obtain a 50 yard initial intersection.

    Just because YOU do not understand the difference does not mean that there is is not a difference, or that the difference is not important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    I will. I will use them to obtain a 100 yard zero.

    If I hang them at 50 yards, I will use them to obtain a 50 yard initial intersection.

    Just because YOU do not understand the difference does not mean that there is is not a difference, or that the difference is not important.
    Oh I do understand the difference. By your rational there would be no such thing as a 200 yd zero either. It would just be a secondary intersection. Just because YOU (I love how you use the caps) do something one way doesn't mean its the only way and everyone else is wrong or doesn't understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rob_s View Post
    That graph does not show a 50 yard zero. A 50 yard zero is physically impossible.
    Please explain I’m curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icculus View Post
    Oh I do understand the difference. By your rational there would be no such thing as a 200 yd zero either. It would just be a secondary intersection.
    No, it would be both a zero and a second intersection. In shooting the second intersection, or final intersection, is called a "zero".

    Which, by the way, brings us to why I prefer the 100 yard zero, since the thread is good and hijacked and I already got what I wanted...

    with a 100 yard zero you get initial intersection, maximum ordinate, and zero all ~at the same point. Very useful, and produces less overall deviation between POA/POI all the way out past 200 yards than the 200 yard zero (or 40 yard initial intersection).

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