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    I've owned a S3G and have a DAO pistol. I don't think the two are close.

    With the S3G, the second stage is just very fine. It looks just like any other two stage and functions the same, but the stop at the end of the first stage isn't there. When you pull the trigger, you pull straight through the second stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bp7178 View Post
    I've owned a S3G and have a DAO pistol. I don't think the two are close.

    With the S3G, the second stage is just very fine. It looks just like any other two stage and functions the same, but the stop at the end of the first stage isn't there. When you pull the trigger, you pull straight through the second stage.
    eh, you have the experience so I'm not going to argue. but GA's description, and others who have this trigger, have said there is no second stage. they say only that it takes a certain amount of force for the trigger to begin movement and then it continues back at that weight, with no stacking or change in weight, until it breaks.

    this sounds to me, regardless of the length of pull or reset, like a double action, or maybe more accurately, like a "striker fired" action trigger a' la glock...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ra2bach View Post
    eh, you have the experience so I'm not going to argue. but GA's description, and others who have this trigger, have said there is no second stage. they say only that it takes a certain amount of force for the trigger to begin movement and then it continues back at that weight, with no stacking or change in weight, until it breaks.

    this sounds to me, regardless of the length of pull or reset, like a double action, or maybe more accurately, like a "striker fired" action trigger a' la glock...
    I think you are over thinking it based on descriptions.

    It feels like a single stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dom1104 View Post
    I think you are over thinking it based on descriptions.

    It feels like a single stage.
    well, there you go...
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    Last edited by jmart; 07-29-11 at 19:23.

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    By design its still a two stage, which was my point. It still functions as a two stage, but the stages are transparent to the end user.

    Two stage and single stage triggers are functionally different. The S3G is just tuned different.

    Every striker fired gun I've shot almost felt mushy, not in a bad way, but it is what it is. The Geissele triggers are very crisp.

    The S3G is like 1911, if you're looking for a pistol analogy.

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    I don't think there is a very large market for high-end single stage AR triggers. Before I became a member of this forum I had never heard of anyone actually wanting one.

    I put in a SD-E and ran it through 2 classes and a few "Military Rifle" shoots at my one club. When run quickly the second stage is completely undetectable. You have to "sneak up" on the second stage to feel it. It feels very close to a crisp 3.5 lb 1911 trigger... more so than the S3G IMHO. At least my 1911's.

    The first time I ran it I even came in a very close second (out of 18) in the "Modified Navy Qualifier" they ended the class with.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5epCk5KRY

    I was shooting a bit faster than the demo but there were guys 2x as fast with SSA's and SSA-E's.

    The SD-E is the best of both worlds. It feels like a single stage when run fast but you still have a 2nd stage for precision shots.

    I demoed an S3G and preferred the SD-E. If your used to creepy 6-8 pound "out of the box" service grade triggers I would not recommend the S3G; it will feel VERY lite. And if your other guns have service grade triggers it may be difficult to go back and forth.
    Last edited by OldState; 07-29-11 at 20:49.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bp7178 View Post
    By design its still a two stage, which was my point. It still functions as a two stage, but the stages are transparent to the end user.

    Two stage and single stage triggers are functionally different. The S3G is just tuned different.

    Every striker fired gun I've shot almost felt mushy, not in a bad way, but it is what it is. The Geissele triggers are very crisp.

    The S3G is like 1911, if you're looking for a pistol analogy.
    yeah, maybe so. I've not shot it, I was just trying to understand what it was like from the descriptions I've read. having experience on the trigger itself is better than reading descriptions. thanks for the reply...
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    Quote Originally Posted by OldState View Post
    I don't think there is a very large market for high-end single stage AR triggers. Before I became a member of this forum I had never heard of anyone actually wanting one.

    I put in a SD-E and ran it through 2 classes and a few "Military Rifle" shoots at my one club. When run quickly the second stage is completely undetectable. You have to "sneak up" on the second stage to feel it. It feels very close to a crisp 3.5 lb 1911 trigger... more so than the S3G IMHO. At least my 1911's.

    The first time I ran it I even came in a very close second (out of 18) in the "Modified Navy Qualifier" they ended the class with.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5epCk5KRY

    I was shooting a bit faster than the demo but there were guys 2x as fast with SSA's and SSA-E's.

    The SD-E is the best of both worlds. It feels like a single stage when run fast but you still have a 2nd stage for precision shots.

    I demoed an S3G and preferred the SD-E. If your used to creepy 6-8 pound "out of the box" service grade triggers I would not recommend the S3G; it will feel VERY lite. And if your other guns have service grade triggers it may be difficult to go back and forth.
    the only time I used an aftermarket trigger is for competition. I used a "tuned" RRA trigger and it was night and day for getting consistent accurate slow-fire hits at distance. for a defensive rifle, I think a good example of a service grade trigger is better than most people are shooting with now...
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    I believe the SD3G three gun trigger is basically a single stage trigger,..
    They feel nothing like a (even lightened) single or even a double stage to me. It's in it's own class and geared for competition, as the name implies. I personally like to feel some resistance before the gun goes, bang (be it single or double stage) - it's not there with the 3G trigger.
    Last edited by shootist~; 07-30-11 at 00:26.

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