Facepalm worthy moments in CCW...

**LHS** · 08-04-11, 02:22

I had a friend pull out his grandfather's WWI-vintage M1917 Colt revolver, with the original leather belt and butt-forward holster, to show me. He pulled it from the holster, opened the cylinder, closed it again, and dry fired it. Ok, no big deal as of yet. Then after I fondled it and gave it back, he set it on the table pointing directly at me. When I objected to this, he scoffed and said in a condescending tone, "It's not loaded. I guess you're just not as comfortable around guns as I am."

The only time I went shooting with him, before the above incident, he was shooting dramatically low left with his XD-45. Convinced the gun was somehow to blame, he tried to drift the rear sight with a loaded AK mag for a hammer and an empty Wolf 7.62x39mm case for a punch. Before he could scar up his gun, I asked if I could try it. I put five rounds into the A-zone as fast as I could get the sights back on target and said, "The gun's fine, but your trigger control needs work." I then had him use his wife's G19 w/ CT grips and demonstrated just how horrendously El Snatcho was biting him. Strangely enough, he shot that M1917 Colt without any trigger snatch at all.

The worst part was he had no desire to learn any techniques from a 'mere civilian', as he had been 101st Airborne and thus knew everything.

**QuietShootr** · 08-04-11, 08:38

Wow. Some of you guys hang around with ****ing retards.

**Reagans Rascals** · 08-04-11, 09:18

Originally Posted by LHS

Where to start...

I took my first CCW class at Gunsite, and overall it was an excellent program for the type. However, the clientele ranged from competent to moronic. There were some just-turned-21 college students there who only wanted to know when they could legally 'bust a cap in someone's ass'. One of them was carrying a cheap 1911 clone in an equally cheap shoulder rig, and had to be put at the far left of the line to prevent him sweeping anyone.

One lady had a Sig P232 and seemed to be doing okay until it had a failure to feed, at which point she did a 180 with the weapon leveled, sweeping half the class, and said "My gun jammed." The smart half of the class hit the gravel, the other half either didn't notice or didn't care. The instructor quickly pointed her back downrange and admonished her against doing that ever again. Then he looked at the weapon, realized it was drier than a popcorn fart, and asked when she had last lubed it. She gave him a deer-in-the-headlights look and said, "Lubed?" Turns out she'd bought the gun two days earlier and had never lubed, cleaned or shot it prior to the class.

Another mental giant had a cheap Taurus 92 clone, which he fired strong-hand-only, with the dust cover lying on the palm of his support hand. I don't know how he didn't burn himself with muzzle blast. When I mentioned this to the instructor, he just shrugged and said "When he blows a finger or two off, then he'll learn." At least that guy knew not to sweep the class.

But the creme de la creme happened when I took a co-worker out shooting. He had a Walther P22 in a cheap nylon holster, and wanted to switch the holster from left-hand to right-hand so his wife could use it. So he takes the holster, with the gun still in it, cocked and unlocked, and proceeds to press it muzzle-first against his stomach while he cuts at the webbing with a pocketknife. The other three guys there (all of us are fairly switched on) were aghast, and we tried to tell him he was going to get himself shot, but he just shrugged and said "It's in the holster." We tried to tell him that the bullet would easily go through the holster and into his guts, but he just refused to listen. We have refused to take him out shooting again.

the best descriptive captions thus far... popcorn fart had me rolling for about 5 minutes... kudos my kind sir.. kudos

**Drew78** · 08-04-11, 09:39

Heres one from earlier this week...

I am at my range doing my drills with my Glock 26 and .38 snub. I get there a tad late and there is a guy on one of the lanes already shooting a .22lr rifle. I get all my eye/ear pro on and proceed into the range. I start with my .38 snubby at 21' with hammered pair drills. Doing quite well, so much in fact, I notice the guy on the other end of the lanes talking to me. I usually try to put as much distance between me and other shooters I dont know.

So, I look over at this guy and he asks if I am shooting a .45 b/c of, as he put it "the manly sound of the gun firing". WTF I think to myself... I say "nope its a .38 snubby". He asks if I am .mil and I say no just your average guy. He says I should have been in the Marines b/c I can shoot. OK I say, not knowing what to make of this guy. While staring at this guy, I notice he is not wearing ANY ear pro. Now keelp in mind we are indoors, solid concrete and steel everywhere. I wear plugs AND muffs and it is still quite noticable. So I say to this guy, where is your hearing pro? He goes on to say the following...and I shit you not....

"I was in the Marines, I dont need any ear protection"

I think, holy shit this guy somehow has magical powers. I ask, are you deaf already? He says, "No I am tough, I am a Marine" all while giving me this really creepy smirk. I say to him, ok Marine well I am going to keep shooting as I need to get back to work.

Finish up my snubby drills and move to the Glock 26. Again I am running a variety of drills and Mr. Miracle ears approaches me and complements my shooting. Great, its always nice to get a compliment and I thank him. Now he is about 5' from me and it is awkward. I am clearly just trying to get on with my shit, and he is just standing there with that creepy smirk. So I run a string and turn to him and ask if he needs something. He proceeds to point to his hip and tells me about his awsome CCW rig.

I look at it and have no idea what the hell it is, and I am a gun nerd. He goes on to tell me that it is a SIG in .22lr. What I do notice is that his holster is the kind that carrys the spare mag as part of the holster, located just in front of the pistol. I ask him how the heck he reloads if he needs to access his spare mag with his strong hand. He says he just switches hands get the mag, then switches everything back over again then loads. My brain acutually twitched trying to figure out ANY way this could work let alone be useful in a gun fight. Then he proceeds to tell me why his Sig in .22lr is the cats ass for CCW. The kicker is that he tells me that all the "classified operatives" (his words!) use .22lr for their "missions" and b/c of his Marine training he could easily "kill a man" with his .22 due to his training.

I ask what he did in the Marines, and he told me he was in the reserves (?)

WTF

The only positive is he gave me a bunch of targets when he left. I asked why dont you just keep them, and he asked me what for? So I kept them, save me a few bucks!

-Drew

**QuietShootr** · 08-04-11, 09:56

Originally Posted by Drew78

Heres one from earlier this week...

I am at my range doing my drills with my Glock 26 and .38 snub. I get there a tad late and there is a guy on one of the lanes already shooting a .22lr rifle. I get all my eye/ear pro on and proceed into the range. I start with my .38 snubby at 21' with hammered pair drills. Doing quite well, so much in fact, I notice the guy on the other end of the lanes talking to me. I usually try to put as much distance between me and other shooters I dont know.

So, I look over at this guy and he asks if I am shooting a .45 b/c of, as he put it "the manly sound of the gun firing". WTF I think to myself... I say "nope its a .38 snubby". He asks if I am .mil and I say no just your average guy. He says I should have been in the Marines b/c I can shoot. OK I say, not knowing what to make of this guy. While staring at this guy, I notice he is not wearing ANY ear pro. Now keelp in mind we are indoors, solid concrete and steel everywhere. I wear plugs AND muffs and it is still quite noticable. So I say to this guy, where is your hearing pro? He goes on to say the following...and I shit you not....

"I was in the Marines, I dont need any ear protection"

I think, holy shit this guy somehow has magical powers. I ask, are you deaf already? He says, "No I am tough, I am a Marine" all while giving me this really creepy smirk. I say to him, ok Marine well I am going to keep shooting as I need to get back to work.

Finish up my snubby drills and move to the Glock 26. Again I am running a variety of drills and Mr. Miracle ears approaches me and complements my shooting. Great, its always nice to get a compliment and I thank him. Now he is about 5' from me and it is awkward. I am clearly just trying to get on with my shit, and he is just standing there with that creepy smirk. So I run a string and turn to him and ask if he needs something. He proceeds to point to his hip and tells me about his awsome CCW rig.

I look at it and have no idea what the hell it is, and I am a gun nerd. He goes on to tell me that it is a SIG in .22lr. What I do notice is that his holster is the kind that carrys the spare mag as part of the holster, located just in front of the pistol. I ask him how the heck he reloads if he needs to access his spare mag with his strong hand. He says he just switches hands get the mag, then switches everything back over again then loads. My brain acutually twitched trying to figure out ANY way this could work let alone be useful in a gun fight. Then he proceeds to tell me why his Sig in .22lr is the cats ass for CCW. The kicker is that he tells me that all the "classified operatives" (his words!) use .22lr for their "missions" and b/c of his Marine training he could easily "kill a man" with his .22 due to his training.

I ask what he did in the Marines, and he told me he was in the reserves (?)

WTF

The only positive is he gave me a bunch of targets when he left. I asked why dont you just keep them, and he asked me what for? So I kept them, save me a few bucks!

-Drew

There's a guy like that (or there used to be) at the public range in Indianapolis. He worked there - was this longhair dirtbag looking guy who wore a big gold "Special Forces" signet ring and used to tell people he was SF.

I checked him out on SOCnet and of course he was a bullshitter. He actually got into the range's files, got my home address, and sent me a quasi-threatening letter telling me I'd better stop telling people he wasn't SF or else he'd sue me and then kick my ass.

The local range dweebs worshiped the ground this guy walked on.

**LowSpeed_HighDrag** · 08-04-11, 11:13

Originally Posted by Drew78

Heres one from earlier this week...

I lost my hearing in the Marines. I wear low-pro inner ear hearing aides and everything sounds like im standing in a windy cave. When I got to the range Ive got 2 forms of ear pro on at all times because I cant afford to lose any more. This guy sounds like a giant douche.

**lloydkristmas** · 08-04-11, 12:04

Originally Posted by Drew78

Heres one from earlier this week...

I am at my range doing my drills with my Glock 26 and .38 snub. I get there a tad late and there is a guy on one of the lanes already shooting a .22lr rifle. I get all my eye/ear pro on and proceed into the range. I start with my .38 snubby at 21' with hammered pair drills. Doing quite well, so much in fact, I notice the guy on the other end of the lanes talking to me. I usually try to put as much distance between me and other shooters I dont know.

So, I look over at this guy and he asks if I am shooting a .45 b/c of, as he put it "the manly sound of the gun firing". WTF I think to myself... I say "nope its a .38 snubby". He asks if I am .mil and I say no just your average guy. He says I should have been in the Marines b/c I can shoot. OK I say, not knowing what to make of this guy. While staring at this guy, I notice he is not wearing ANY ear pro. Now keelp in mind we are indoors, solid concrete and steel everywhere. I wear plugs AND muffs and it is still quite noticable. So I say to this guy, where is your hearing pro? He goes on to say the following...and I shit you not....

"I was in the Marines, I dont need any ear protection"

I think, holy shit this guy somehow has magical powers. I ask, are you deaf already? He says, "No I am tough, I am a Marine" all while giving me this really creepy smirk. I say to him, ok Marine well I am going to keep shooting as I need to get back to work.

Finish up my snubby drills and move to the Glock 26. Again I am running a variety of drills and Mr. Miracle ears approaches me and complements my shooting. Great, its always nice to get a compliment and I thank him. Now he is about 5' from me and it is awkward. I am clearly just trying to get on with my shit, and he is just standing there with that creepy smirk. So I run a string and turn to him and ask if he needs something. He proceeds to point to his hip and tells me about his awsome CCW rig.

I look at it and have no idea what the hell it is, and I am a gun nerd. He goes on to tell me that it is a SIG in .22lr. What I do notice is that his holster is the kind that carrys the spare mag as part of the holster, located just in front of the pistol. I ask him how the heck he reloads if he needs to access his spare mag with his strong hand. He says he just switches hands get the mag, then switches everything back over again then loads. My brain acutually twitched trying to figure out ANY way this could work let alone be useful in a gun fight. Then he proceeds to tell me why his Sig in .22lr is the cats ass for CCW. The kicker is that he tells me that all the "classified operatives" (his words!) use .22lr for their "missions" and b/c of his Marine training he could easily "kill a man" with his .22 due to his training.

I ask what he did in the Marines, and he told me he was in the reserves (?)

WTF

The only positive is he gave me a bunch of targets when he left. I asked why dont you just keep them, and he asked me what for? So I kept them, save me a few bucks!

-Drew

Sounds like this guy was:

A) a poser
B) interested in sexing your butt

**Drew78** · 08-04-11, 12:35

Originally Posted by QuietShootr

There's a guy like that (or there used to be) at the public range in Indianapolis. He worked there - was this longhair dirtbag looking guy who wore a big gold "Special Forces" signet ring and used to tell people he was SF.

I checked him out on SOCnet and of course he was a bullshitter. He actually got into the range's files, got my home address, and sent me a quasi-threatening letter telling me I'd better stop telling people he wasn't SF or else he'd sue me and then kick my ass.

The local range dweebs worshiped the ground this guy walked on.

I had never seen this "Special OP" guy before and I am at the range quite a bit. He was in his mid 50's ish, clean cut, and had a very thick Eastern European accent... everything about it was odd...