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Thread: Overall length - 14.5" vs 14.7"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    Additionally though, I'd not perm attach a brake- it's a wear item and that extra 1.4 or so inches is not worth the hassle...

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    so if it's a wear item, and removing the permed brake generally destroys it, what's the issue???
    never push a wrench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ra2bach View Post
    so if it's a wear item, and removing the permed brake generally destroys it, what's the issue???
    The issue is that it's a PITA to remove and replace a permed device.

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    Thanks for the responses guys, especially JSantoro.

    I'm having Marvin Pitts do the work and while I have reason to trust him he seems very busy and figured I'd just make it easier for him. I suppose I'll shoot him an email and see if he has the time to figure it out.

    Thanks again.

    Dave

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    I say SBR it or just go with the 16.1" overalll length since it should still fit in that bag while being more on the safe side of you being legal.

    On another note. How offer are people removing their flashiders? I see lots of talk about perming them making removal hard, but how are often are folks removing them? I set up my guns and haven't needed to remove the FH once mounted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonM View Post
    The issue is that it's a PITA to remove and replace a permed device.
    no it's not. you'll destroy (at least cosmetically) a permed device but it's no harder than taking a dremel to the weld bead and then maybe drilling down a bit on the pin till it loosens. you're not welding the FH to the barrel...
    never push a wrench...

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    Quote Originally Posted by advntrjnky View Post
    one thing to keep in mind is that the barrel length has very little to do with the OAL you are asking about. it is almost all dependent on the FH torque shoulder and also whether or not you use a washer as a spacer. if you have ever looked inside most FH you will see that there is a lot of leeway for where the muzzle crown can be. If you use a non-indexed FH again your smith should be able to adjust the shoulder down to the bare minimum for you fairly easily. if your barrel's muzzle ends up at 14.4", 14.5", 14.6", or 14.7" who cares. it's all about the torque shoulder location and the specific muzzle devise you use.

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    But he still won't make 16" with a 14.7" barrel and a 1" muzzle device. Does anyone have any picture proof of this? Maybe it'll help

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    one thing to keep in mind is that the barrel length has very little to do with the OAL you are asking about. it is almost all dependent on the FH torque shoulder and also whether or not you use a washer as a spacer. if you have ever looked inside most FH you will see that there is a lot of leeway for where the muzzle crown can be. If you use a non-indexed FH again your smith should be able to adjust the shoulder down to the bare minimum for you fairly easily. if your barrel's muzzle ends up at 14.4", 14.5", 14.6", or 14.7" who cares. it's all about the torque shoulder location and the specific muzzle devise you use.

    advntrjnky

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    Quote Originally Posted by ra2bach View Post
    no it's not. you'll destroy (at least cosmetically) a permed device but it's no harder than taking a dremel to the weld bead and then maybe drilling down a bit on the pin till it loosens. you're not welding the FH to the barrel...
    I think grinding off the bead, possibly drilling, pulling the pin, takingoff old device... then drilling, pinning and welding a new one on is indeed a PITA compared to unscrewing the old one and screwing on a new one.

    Back on Track- OP, marvin does great work, he'll hook you up.

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