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    First off, I am waiting impatiently for the link to the information on the contract that Scrubmaster had with the US Military...

    Second, I have yet to see what the problem is with Colt stamping their rifles with the "LE and Gov't use only"... Who cares what the lower receiver has stamped on it? A civilian can still buy one, so what is the big deal? As long as they produce a quality weapon, I couldn't care less what the company chooses to stamp on the weapon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP3R 237 View Post
    ........and to my amazement the gas key was properly staked.....
    I have examined dozens of Bushmasters and every one had a properly staked gas key. You think Bushmaster never staked a gas key? The Bushmaster haters might have you believe this but Bushmaster corrected that problem some time ago. By the way, Bushmaster is gone. These Ilion "Bushmasters" are essentially Remingtons. The folks who did the stupid stuff at Bushmaster are not at Ilion, they are in Windham starting a new company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wolf_walker View Post
    Not that it's a defense of lesser outfits, but I imagine it costs Colt a hell of a lot less to make a rifle than it does a lot of people. You wouldn't think bushmaster would be one of them long as they have been doing it one way or another, but still. Good to be king I guess.
    I am guessing that Colt is unionized, I'd be very surprised to find they are not and I know they operate in a high cost region, Connecticut, their cost may be higher than others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suwannee Tim View Post
    I am guessing that Colt is unionized, I'd be very surprised to find they are not and I know they operate in a high cost region, Connecticut, their cost may be higher than others.
    Union thing didn't occur to me, that's a wrench in the works no doubt. Hmm...

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    I know what you said. FYI- I was in the Army during that time frame 09/86-09/91 and then 3 years IRR.

    The BM/Military bullshit story is just that. I am 99.9% certain that no Bushmaster rifle. carbine has ever been deployed or actively used by the U.S military.

    You remind me alot of someone named sandman571 or something like that who attempted to convince people that U.S Army Rangers and Special Forces were using Bushmaster. It's a load of crap and didn't happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by txbrenek View Post
    No I said they made some M-16s for the military during Desert storm apparently you where to young to now this back in the 90's and when I bought my bushy I did put 1,000 rnds through it. Now I have been in classes where we go through ammo like crazy . OH yes my spell check does not work



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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaSierra View Post

    Second, I have yet to see what the problem is with Colt stamping their rifles with the "LE and Gov't use only"... Who cares what the lower receiver has stamped on it? A civilian can still buy one, so what is the big deal? As long as they produce a quality weapon, I couldn't care less what the company chooses to stamp on the weapon...
    I'm not so annoyed about that as I am the physical differences they made along the way. I've been told the ATF was in-house and all that. With the LE markings, it reads just like "civilians may not own this" to me. And that annoys me more than a goofy logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsk View Post
    Considering the fact that a new Colt 6920 costs within $100 of what a similar Bushy goes for they'd better be making a LOT more changes/upgrades than that.
    Yup. I own a BM and it's been reliable and trouble free, but had I known then what I know now (thanx in large part to M4C and other sources) I would not have purchased the BM. It's also not been a "hard use" gun, so issues may show themselves at higher rnd counts.

    n = 1 observation/experience there

    Not the worst M4 out there to be sure from what I understand, but for the $$$, or a tad more, would not be my choice now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    Care to share a link to the contract? After all Government contracts are public record.
    Also it is generally poor form to throw around insults, especially at one of the more respected and experience members of this board.
    X2. I've been working on gov't guns for a lot of years and all of the M16s I've seen were: Colt, FN and one H&R (it should have been in a museum)...
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    Just FYI - the "simulated" guns in the EST2000 are Bushmasters.

    So there. Bushmaster can make a fine "simulated" rifle.

    As far as Bushmaters fixing the staking "years ago", as late as 2009, I've seen contractor Bushmasters coming with unstaked keys from the factory.

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    I seen a youtube vid not too long ago. Where a guy had sent his ACR in to BM because he was having some malfunctions. When he spoke to the "gunsmith" at BM they told him they polished his feed ramp and that HE SHOULD NOT BE USING 5.56 AMMO IN THE ACR!!! that the acr was not designed for 5.56? but the gun even says 5.56 on it. after i seen that vid i knew i would never buy a BM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAqTpz_B_Ew
    Last edited by bakercountyboy; 08-06-11 at 11:14.

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