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    as a lefty, i've found ambi controls on the lower and an ambi charging handle on the upper to be more beneficial than a left-side ejecting upper. i've always shot standard uppers and never had an issue with brass hitting me. i did shoot a left stag upper once, and didn't like it, simply because i couldn't see the ejection port in my peripheral vision.
    when shooting a standard upper, i can immediately see what kind of malfunction i have without rolling the gun over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy View Post
    He already said the quality doesn't bother him, and is happy with his purchase.

    Just because someone comes on with a new AR that isn't left hand charted I don't see the reasoning behind always linking them to that thread. Now, if he came here saying "Look guyz at my new stag arms!!! its all milspec and stuff, the military even uses them!! good buy right??>>" ,I would understand.

    To me the constant bashing of people that buy "inferior" carbines on this forum is getting old, especially by the more revered members. I am part of the group that says "not everyone needs everything perfect in their rifle", so that's my opinion. I understand this site is more for those who take AR and weapon use in general seriously, but this near constant and consistent disparaging of those who have less than perfect rifles is getting ridiculous.

    Would this guy be better served by a DD, BCM, or Colt? Probably. Does he NEED one? Maybe. Is he happy with HIS purchase with HIS money, it appears so.
    I have had plenty of Colts (6920/6940 & several Hbars) along w/ several LMTs (MRP CQB Piston & Defender) & just wanted a left handed AR 15 rifle. While not a Stag fan, for only $650 I felt I was getting a good quality left handed rifle to shoot. Left handed rifles are slow movers in our local gun shop, so in addition to the Factory Stag gear that came w/ the rifle, my dealer even threw in three new MagPul mags, tactical sling & 100 rds of factory Federal ball ammo.
    I've been away from this forum for quite a while, I was really getting tired of all the "milspec chart" talk from the internet commandos. There are no left handed "tier one" mfgs out there. I do like the lefty friendly Knights Armament SR-15 Carbine, but they run over $2K and for that money I would rather have my lefty Stag Rifle and a new Les Baer Premier II.
    Last edited by Iceberg; 08-07-11 at 15:27.

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    The relevance is explained by the post below the one I am quoting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iceberg View Post
    Don't see the relevance of this link. I wanted a left handed AR & Stag/CMT is the only mfg that I have found.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I'm sorry you feel that way. But, this isn't ARFCOM or some other site.

    My pointing out that thread to him was to EDUCATE him on somethings he should be looking at and for.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I'm sorry you feel that way. But, this isn't ARFCOM or some other site.

    My pointing out that thread to him was to EDUCATE him on somethings he should be looking at and for.
    He was already educated, he said it himself a few posts back.

    Here's my insight: this forum provided most of the information that made me sell my DPMS/M1S years ago and start buying quality guns. This forum is full of info that every AR owner should read and be educated about. However, just because someone posts about a AR that isn't left charted doesn't mean they need to be chewed out and given links to dozens of threads and stickies.

    In your average thread titled "I have a problem with my [not BCM, DD, Colt, LMT] carbine" 90% of the replies will be "should have bought quality", "I suggest you read this thread", "that's what you get for buying that junk" instead of trying to actually help them, even if it's not a quality issue problem.
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    I'm sorry you feel that way. But, this isn't ARFCOM or some other site.

    My pointing out that thread to him was to EDUCATE him on somethings he should be looking at and for.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy View Post
    He already said the quality doesn't bother him, and is happy with his purchase.

    Just because someone comes on with a new AR that isn't left hand charted I don't see the reasoning behind always linking them to that thread. Now, if he came here saying "Look guyz at my new stag arms!!! its all milspec and stuff, the military even uses them!! good buy right??>>" ,I would understand.

    To me the constant bashing of people that buy "inferior" carbines on this forum is getting old, especially by the more revered members. I am part of the group that says "not everyone needs everything perfect in their rifle", so that's my opinion. I understand this site is more for those who take AR and weapon use in general seriously, but this near constant and consistent disparaging of those who have less than perfect rifles is getting ridiculous.

    Would this guy be better served by a DD, BCM, or Colt? Probably. Does he NEED one? Maybe. Is he happy with HIS purchase with HIS money, it appears so.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I'm sorry you feel that way. But, this isn't ARFCOM or some other site.

    My pointing out that thread to him was to EDUCATE him on somethings he should be looking at and for.
    He was already educated, he said it himself a few posts back.

    Here's my insight: this forum provided most of the information that made me sell my DPMS/M1S years ago and start buying quality guns. This forum is full of info that every AR owner should read and be educated about. However, just because someone posts about a AR that isn't left charted doesn't mean they need to be chewed out and given links to dozens of threads and stickies.

    In your average thread titled "I have a problem with my [not BCM, DD, Colt, LMT] carbine" 90% of the replies will be "should have bought quality", "I suggest you read this thread", "that's what you get for buying that junk" instead of trying to actually help them, even if it's not a quality issue problem.
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    As a newcomer to this forum I enjoy reading the info however I see the Rambo types on all AR forums they feel the need to down grade anyone who makes a purchase they don't deem meeting there demands. Child like in my opinion.

    Look most AR"s purchased most will never see battle certainly it's good to purchase the best you can afford but many people view it as a hobby not preparing for war.

    There is a right and wrong way to educate people sadly I see many in gun sports run newcomers off with attitude.

    Ask youself before posting do I want somone from the non-shooting public to see my post will they consider me a child or adult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    GB,

    I disagree to a point. If you are not responsible enough to do some research ahead of time (there have been many that admitted that) then I say "doom on you".

    What you also fail to realize is that no one here is compensated for their work here. Whether it be mods, staff or members. We provide information and attempt to help people free of charge.

    Do you know how many times someone has come here to ask about their weapon and got pissed because they didn't hear what they wanted?

    I suggest that you peruse the threads and look at what happens when you tell someone they have failures to extract because their chamber is out of spec. Or you tell them that their weapon is malfunctioning because the gas port is too large or some dipstick not qualified to work on AR's cut their barrel wrong or something else.
    I understand, and I am well aware of the types of threads you are referring to in your second paragraph. I see them all the time. In fact, I sometimes feel sort of sorry when I see a new thread with a title like "My DPMS is having extraction problems" and I know good and well what the replies will be like.

    Sure, its definitely OK to point people in the right direction and make them educated - the same thing happened to me. I just think that on some occasions, such as this one, its not really needed. The OP knew what he bought, and made a purchase he liked.

    Here's some food for thought: I read (not post) on a lot of the "other" forums and read a lot of the comments on Youtube videos of right charted carbines, and there is a scary consensus I see a lot. People call those like us on M4C "snobs" or similar synonyms that are just trying to push an agenda against the lower quality rifles. Anytime I try to correct them, they tell me I am wrong. They just can't get around the propaganda they have been taught.

    Unfortunately, I see the mentality this forum has of trying to shove the "you should have bought this" philosophy is somewhat hurting us. It makes outsiders wary, and possibly, as you put it "pissed" that we are dissing their xyz carbine.

    Now there are two ways of looking at it: Either we try a different approach, or they just need to grow the **** up and face the facts.

    Now just to make it clear, I am not trying to bash you IG. I think you are a great contributor to this forum and I have learned alto from your posts, I just disagree with your approach on some matters.
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    There weren't dozens of links, there was only one... And it was a helpful "one" at that for any owner of Stag, RRA, etc. Nothing wrong with it if you already own it, but why not make it better or at least check.

    If that's NOT constructive, I'm not sure what else he could have done except applaud his find.
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    GB,

    I disagree to a point. If you are not responsible enough to do some research ahead of time (there have been many that admitted that) then I say "doom on you".

    What you also fail to realize is that no one here is compensated for their work here. Whether it be mods, staff or members. We provide information and attempt to help people free of charge.

    Do you know how many times someone has come here to ask about their weapon and got pissed because they didn't hear what they wanted?

    I suggest that you peruse the threads and look at what happens when you tell someone they have failures to extract because their chamber is out of spec. Or you tell them that their weapon is malfunctioning because the gas port is too large or some dipstick not qualified to work on AR's cut their barrel wrong or something else.

    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoy View Post
    He was already educated, he said it himself a few posts back.

    Here's my insight: this forum provided most of the information that made me sell my DPMS/M1S years ago and start buying quality guns. This forum is full of info that every AR owner should read and be educated about. However, just because someone posts about a AR that isn't left charted doesn't mean they need to be chewed out and given links to dozens of threads and stickies.

    In your average thread titled "I have a problem with my [not BCM, DD, Colt, LMT] carbine" 90% of the replies will be "should have bought quality", "I suggest you read this thread", "that's what you get for buying that junk" instead of trying to actually help them, even if it's not a quality issue problem.



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