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    So, we've decided on the SF can and flash suppressor.

    We want to know if we should mount the SF FS now or wait.

    Do we need to hear how much better AAC's designs are (supposedly) than the SF designs?

    Once again, RSilvers posts nothing until he can post something bad about another competitor's product or at least use a thread about another competitor's products to push his own.


    We don't have the HSLD guys who "need" the better FS in this thread. We have someone who's already decided what he's going with.

    If you want to promote your products to the real HSLD guys go to TOS with your supposed data Kevin and Rob, please. Those are the guys who really need the latest and greatest.

    Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

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    I know we are off topic here....if any post from here out strays off topic, it will be deleted, and then the topic locked.

    Further, I know we can all act like adults around here. So let's start doing that too.

    The kids' playground is on some other forum.

    ETA: This means that if any post after this one here causes another disruption,....

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    Everyone is afraid. I want to see more pics of that mount and those flash comparison photos too.

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    Please post flash comparison photos including the Blackout flash hider.

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    I was reading all the comparative talk of flash hiders in this post and recently had the chance at a class to see a AAC 416, my M42K07, and a B.E. Meyers all fired on the same line at a recent class at dusk. My M42K was on a 11.5" gun shooting XM193, I don't know what the guy with the 416 was shooting but it was on a FN FS2000, and there was a gov. employee with what looked like a 10.5" gun with the Meyers flash hider, shooting M855. The Meyers has the least flash to the eye of the three. It was kind of an eye opener.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hootiewho View Post
    The Meyers has the least flash to the eye of the three. It was kind of an eye opener.
    If you don't know what ammo was used or, you know it wasn't the same, how can you make that statement? You have 3 different rifles and three different types of ammo so, to be blunt I don't think your statement has any merit. If all 3 people shot a few rounds from the same box of ammo, you would have a better comparison even if there was some variation in the rifles. Ideally, it would be one box of ammo, one rifle, and XX different flash hiders.

    For those that don't have an SBR or M-16 shortie, you can take your favorite 9mm and have a friend load one round out of 5 different brands of ammo in a magazine and see what I'm talking about when you shoot it at NIGHT. The amount of powder, type of powder, and flash retardants all make a HUGE difference.

    Personal grudges or not, some real operators want less flash because it gives them an edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Post View Post
    Personal grudges or not, some real operators want less flash because it gives them an edge.
    Ok, can we see the pictures that bear out what is being stated? Time lapse photography by Rob Silvers previously showed how well, or poorly, flash hiders were doing...

    I'd love to see the photos so we can all make our own conclusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Post View Post
    If you don't know what ammo was used or, you know it wasn't the same, how can you make that statement? You have 3 different rifles and three different types of ammo so, to be blunt I don't think your statement has any merit. If all 3 people shot a few rounds from the same box of ammo, you would have a better comparison even if there was some variation in the rifles. Ideally, it would be one box of ammo, one rifle, and XX different flash hiders.

    For those that don't have an SBR or M-16 shortie, you can take your favorite 9mm and have a friend load one round out of 5 different brands of ammo in a magazine and see what I'm talking about when you shoot it at NIGHT. The amount of powder, type of powder, and flash retardants all make a HUGE difference.

    Personal grudges or not, some real operators want less flash because it gives them an edge.
    There's a video on youtube (foreign) of the H&K 416 firing and then the Meyers flash suppressor. They don't state the ammo is the same but if it is, the difference is amazing.

    I'm just guessing that the stuff shot in that class was all cheap crud too- probably more flash than any normal ammunition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sid Post View Post
    If you don't know what ammo was used or, you know it wasn't the same, how can you make that statement? You have 3 different rifles and three different types of ammo so, to be blunt I don't think your statement has any merit. If all 3 people shot a few rounds from the same box of ammo, you would have a better comparison even if there was some variation in the rifles. Ideally, it would be one box of ammo, one rifle, and XX different flash hiders.

    For those that don't have an SBR or M-16 shortie, you can take your favorite 9mm and have a friend load one round out of 5 different brands of ammo in a magazine and see what I'm talking about when you shoot it at NIGHT. The amount of powder, type of powder, and flash retardants all make a HUGE difference.

    Personal grudges or not, some real operators want less flash because it gives them an edge.

    Easy bro, I wasn't trying to put any manufacturer down, just stating that the flash hider performed well to my eye.

    I know that the guy that had the Meyers was running US Government provided M855, as he was using issued equipment. He had what appeared to be a 10.5" M4.

    I had a 6933 shooting Federal brown box XM193, with an M42K07. I have noticed before shooting at night and watching others shoot at night with my rifle a small flame/flash out of the front of my can with that rifle, not much be a small amount. I ca especially see it with my PVS 14. I didn't, with my eye see that with the Meyers.

    That is not a scientific statement, or X is better than Y, just an observation. If someone wanted to go with a $130.00 Flash Hider instead of a $800.00+ suppressor, the Meyers would be a good one to go with, as I am sure the Blackout or the Vortex.

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    I had never heard of the Meyers flash hider so did a quick Google search and ended up at their webpage. On the page is this video of the 5.56 flash hider.

    I am still trying to absorb as much knowledge as I can from those of you with more experience, but I found the video quite intriguing. I still am unable to figure out how the flash could be completely dissipated by the design but I guess that is why I am not an engineer. Can anyone vouch that the product performs as it does in this video? If so, I would be very interested in this on my work rifle.

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