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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Curious what the M4C members think about this. It seems as if one incident ignited a powder keg and it has turned into nothing more than criminal mobs stealing and destroying whatever they can.

    Does anyone think we could see this happen here? There is alot of going (lack of jobs, etc...) and the use of social networks to spread the messages of "hey let's go looting and cause damage".
    What do you mean "could"?

    LA riots, Liberty City riots, Watts riots. All you need is a pretense and then it is game on.
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    It can and probably will happen CONUS. I've heard rumors that the rioting is not just in London, either. Other UK urban centres may be impacted.
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    Maybe I am missing something here, but the riots are supposedly over the shooting by the U.K. police of a teenager or something. Not sure of what tying of the hands exactly your buddies are referring to. I am in now way doubting what they are saying, but I just don't have the frame of reference they do.
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    I really wish this whole time thing would get fixed. It makes it a pain in the ass to follow a thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by GermanSynergy View Post
    It can and probably will happen CONUS. I've heard rumors that the rioting is not just in London, either. Other UK urban centres may be impacted.
    Great, I'll be flying into Manchester Sept 24 then taking the train north to Harrogate to visit a buddy of mine from here who is stationed there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Does anyone think that if the U.K had similar gun laws like we have in the U.S that things would be different? Would these roaming gangs of people be more hesitant if shopkeepers pulled a deal like some did during the Rodney King riots?

    All of my colleagues live somewhere in the U.K and some of them in the London area. Many of them are appalled at the situation and some of them believe that it is the tying of hands of the police that is allowing this to happen.
    Might not change the big picture much, but it would definitely change things on an individual basis like with the Koreans during the LA riots. There was still rioting, they just went where it was safer to riot.
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    http://www.neurope.eu/articles/Londo...#ixzz1UTXZZiBk
    Looting and pillaging has taken place on an unprecedented scale, leaving many buildings burned to ground and shops emptied by organised groups, and has been attributed to criminal gangs, with the spread of violence across the city labelled as "copycat criminal activity" by the Metropolitan Police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish View Post
    Caesar and Abraxas touched on the current events inside CONUS. I think this could easily happen here and we may not be too far away from something like this happening in our own country in the near future.

    The riots and demonstrations in Greece didn't happen that long ago...

    Don't forget what happened during the Paris riots with the Muslims in 2010 and 2005, biggest 2 I can remember, where a shitload of cars were torched along with buildings, thousands of assaults, etc. Google "Muslim riots Paris" if you want more info.

    Europe is basically a powder keg and we're not too far behind...

    Two my of friends(who are sisters) are French citizens were in Paris in '05 around the time of riots. They met some French-Algerian dude at a cafe, after some wine and bread, he looked at them and just said, "wanna f- some stuff up?" They dont even care, just a reason to cause meyhem.

    There has to be a way to marginalize the "activist" and separatist groups..I was reading RFR earlier and found the activism manufacturing section, the organizers have to be out organized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Does anyone think we could see this happen here?
    I was in the Battle of Seattle (WTO 99) so I say it damn sure could happen here... and there is no shortage of anarchists that wanna make it so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdWatcher View Post
    I was in the Battle of Seattle (WTO 99) so I say it damn sure could happen here... and there is no shortage of anarchists that wanna make it so.
    Anarchists or undercover cops? There have been several incidents where police have infiltrated "anarchist groups" as an agent provocateur and commited illegal activity in order to create headlines and as an excuse to crack down on "anarchists". This is a fact. I'm on a cell but would be happy to cite links in the AM if anyone wants to contest what I'm claiming.

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