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    Forgive me for providing a suggestion with my first post here, but it wasn't mentioned so I thought it might be worth pointing out. PSA just released their 16" FN Hammer Forged Mid-Length upper using the same profile Spikes does on their recently released upper on Aimsurplus. So for a $700 build I'd suggest the following:

    Palmetto State Armory 16'' 5.56 Hammer Forged FN-barreled Mid-Length Upper w/ MOE Handguards + Rear MBUS $530

    Palmetto State Armory MOE Lower Build Kit $140

    Spikes Tactical Stripped Lower $80

    Shipping should only be $15 at PSA, Aim ships Spikes stuff for free.

    Grand total should be $765 + FFL fees for a MOE dressed Hammer Forged middy.

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    If you decide to use Palmetto, go ahead & get their pictogram lower. It's made for them by Aero Precision
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    If you decide to use Palmetto, go ahead & get their pictogram lower. It's made for them by Aero Precision
    Are Aero Precision lowers good? I think they make Spikes and Aim surplus lowers too?

    Thanks guys, I am left with few options here and there as the desired BCM and PSA uppers are being bought up left and right (outta stock). I think I will have to wait a little longer for either BCM or PSA to restock their uppers...and in the mean time do more research on exactly what kind of rifle I want/need....

    But thanks guys for all yalls help

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    To the OP,

    Something else you need to remember is this. In addition to purchasing the weapon you are going to need ammuntion, good magazines and some basic cleaning kit.

    How are you going to buy this if your budget is already stretched? This is why I simply say to buy what you need (if necessary get in stages) and then put it all together right. If you buy a stripped lower you will need a buttstock wrench, punches (stake the castle nut), and a vise block at a minimum. Experienced people could probably improvise (as I have had to do) in the past. However, I do not recommend that an amateur do so. I have seen my fair share of ARbortions and they usually ended up costing more in the long run.

    We haven't even begun to touch on the training aspects, becoming proficient, etc....



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    Just a thought...
    If you are LE, military or someone who's life will depend on your weapon's quality, then save up for the good stuff.
    If you are building a plinker that will see the range once a month or even less, don't sweat it too much. Your resale value won't be stellar, but you'll most likely still have a good time.
    I own more than a few firearms, but in the end I simply cannot afford to shoot them all real frequently and I know my AR build will likely see well under 1K rounds a year. I am choosing to go with mid-tier brands, "good value for the money" items in my build. I'd love to build a $2K rifle, but I'm sure I'll have a great time with my $1K build. Of course I have no intention of going into "harm's way" with it, otherwise I'd be spending a bit more cash on it.

    Just a few personal opinions from a new guy with about 4 posts, so take it for what it's worth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_War_Wagon View Post
    ...'gently used' items from the "For Sale" gear on this and other boards can bring the price down a bit...
    This is the approach I took when my son expressed interest in an AR. Lots of folks change "wants" mid-build, and if you prowl the back pages for parts that have been sitting unsold for a couple of weeks while the current owner chomps at the bit to buy the latest-greatest ultralight barrel or unobtanium bolt you can make their loss your gain. If you're willing to be a little flexible with your own "wants"you can save quite a bit.

    I ended up with a 14.5" middy composed of brand-spanking new (except for the beat-up standard handguards that he can replace himself) high-quality parts (DD-BHF barrel, BCM BCG, etc.--all brand spanking new), complete with BUIS for $755 and a few hours of my spare time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecirclebroke View Post
    Thanks, I may have to look into the BCM upper option, am I getting much better quality with a BCM upper than a PSA upper? Also I simply cannot go over $800, so $1100 is out of the question, wish I had the money for the colt
    If you cant afford the gun, what are you going to do for ammo?
    If you actually shoot it this will be something to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecirclebroke View Post
    Hi guys, thanks for the input, here is what I have come up with now:


    BCM Upper 20in Gov't Profile with Standard Foregrip - 422
    PSA BCG and Charging Handle -109
    MAGPUL BUS - 55
    AIM SURPLUS Lower - 165

    Total Comes out to $751,
    Probably another $50 for Shipping and Transfer fees and I should have something for hopefully under $800, but this would the absolute limit of where I would sit for now

    My question is now if I should go with a 20in , 16in Mid or a 16in Carbine??? This thing will mostly like just be a range queen and maybe small game if I ever decide to get off my lazy butt
    This is a great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecirclebroke View Post
    Hi guys, thanks for the input, here is what I have come up with now:


    BCM Upper 20in Gov't Profile with Standard Foregrip - 422
    PSA BCG and Charging Handle -109
    MAGPUL BUS - 55
    AIM SURPLUS Lower - 165

    Total Comes out to $751,
    Probably another $50 for Shipping and Transfer fees and I should have something for hopefully under $800, but this would the absolute limit of where I would sit for now

    My question is now if I should go with a 20in , 16in Mid or a 16in Carbine??? This thing will mostly like just be a range queen and maybe small game if I ever decide to get off my lazy butt

    If you go with the PSA BCG get the Premium one. It is only $10 extra.

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    These guys are offering up some good suggestions. Heed the warnings though, you won't have very much fun without magazines, ammunition, and a cheapish place to shoot it.

    $479 - PSA 16" standard rifle kit
    $75 - Surplus Ammo and Arms stripped lower
    ~$45 - Matech BUIS

    Around $650 all told for a starter rifle... you could do a lot worse.

    Edit: for $50 more you can get that rifle kit in the all MOE flavor
    Last edited by totenkopf_u64; 08-19-11 at 02:54.

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