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    What barrel length do you want?
    Do you have a preference for carbine or midlength operating systems?
    Do you want a railed HG, tube HG, or something else?
    Do you have a budget for BUIS, or would you like them to pop out of the box with them on?
    Is there a reason you do not want a fixed FSB?

    You have a realistic budget and enough information to get a good rifle pretty quickly.
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    I think he wants a 16, middy, with a railed HG.

    OP, no one else has corrected it, so I will - 1:7 twist is what you want (not 1:9)

    Advice on here is good, BCM/DD can be had for $1200 or less. Are you set on a new rifle...check the classifieds if not.

    http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=82509
    Last edited by munch520; 08-15-11 at 08:21.

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    Don't waste your money on the S&W. Daniel Defense , Bravo Co., and Colt will all be worth it. Don't be afraid to buy a complete lower and complete upper separately. Two push pins make a complete rifle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Failure2Stop View Post
    What barrel length do you want?
    Do you have a preference for carbine or midlength operating systems?
    Do you want a railed HG, tube HG, or something else?
    Do you have a budget for BUIS, or would you like them to pop out of the box with them on?
    Is there a reason you do not want a fixed FSB?

    You have a realistic budget and enough information to get a good rifle pretty quickly.
    Was in my original post:

    16" barrel...Mid-length gas system...Railed handguard like Troy's...Want a BUIS out of the box but would add them if it was still in budget of $1500...and even though I know the FSB doesn't bother MOST shooters with red dots, it bugs the heck out of me.

    Hope that clarifies things and thanks for the help.

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    Is there a reason that you need full rails?

    I'm not criticizing, I'm just trying to see if the advantages of high-end rail systems, and their associated $$ and weight, is worth the cost to you. Most of the rails that people put on their rifles go relatively unused. Even sticking on a VFG and a light does not demand a full rail system, and QD cups can be installed on pretty much any of them. There are also good reasons to go with a nice rail (I have owned several of each type), but it doesn't have to be a default, at least not anymore.

    Have you checked the offerings from the semi-custom makers, such as DD, Noveske, and BCM?
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    The only rifle I listed with a monolithic rail is the Colt. Neither the DD nor the BCM have mono rails. Any one of them will serve you very well, but I definitely prefer the DD. The BCM has Troy rails, which are quite a bit heavier than the DD's rails, and the Colt has a carbine length gas system and a fixed folding sight (I would much prefer to choose my own sight). My training gun is a DD carbine, and I only went with that length since I want to replicate what I'm issued. Given the choice, I'd much rather have a midlength.

    Quote Originally Posted by BountyXP View Post
    Was in my original post:

    16" barrel...Mid-length gas system...Railed handguard like Troy's...Want a BUIS out of the box but would add them if it was still in budget of $1500...and even though I know the FSB doesn't bother MOST shooters with red dots, it bugs the heck out of me.

    Hope that clarifies things and thanks for the help.
    Don't take me the wrong way here, but I don't understand how the FSB bothers you... if you're shooting both eyes open, it should be unnoticeable. I have an Aimpoint ML2 and I have never took notice of the FSB unless I was intentionally trying to.

    Instead of a long rail system without an FSB, I'd just buy a DD XV, Colt 6920, or BCM M4, all with normal FSBs, and use the remaining money on an optic.

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    Just as an FYI, we sell the Colt 6940 for $1280.


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    Want to thank all the posters for their responses and for giving me plenty to think about. Took the advice and went with the DD M4 Mid-length 16"...obligatory pic post to come when it gets here.

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    Cant go wrong with your choice. Very quality rifle and good CS.

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    I just bought the DD M4V5 and have been very happy with it after only 500 or so rounds. The BCM 16" RECCE was my other top choice but I could not find one to put my hands on.

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