Want to build a 3-gun/practical weapon system.

[Mauser KAR98K]

My carbine isn't what I thought, and with the new shooting techniques, plus my very active entrance back into 3-gun, I'm wanting to really build a new weapon system for match, but also practicality in today's unsure world. My dilemma stems between what length of the barrel, lower, parts kits, trigger system, battery assist device, barrel type (more on that), and either a gas block, or switchblock.

Here are my choices I have narrowed down to:

Lowers
Noveske flared lower (when it comes out).
LaRue billet lower

Upper
Noveske
VLTOR MUR

Trigger
Geissele S3G
Geissele Two Stage
Geissele DMR

Barrel
Noveske SS
Noveske hammer forge

Length
14.5"
16"

My intent is to build this system here at home (with correct tools, of course). My other intent is to use the lower as a SPR. So, do I need to think about matching lower to upper receivers with the same company, are my choices compatible with each other, and what are the pros and cons of on what I have selected. I want the best tool for the sport I'm growing to love, plus using it with practice means (SHTF, ZOMBIES, Ginger uprising).

What I have settled on is the using Magpul's UBR stock, a LarRue Tactical free float rail system, and either an AAC blackout or brakeout with the intention of getting a suppressor down the road.

I'm looking for this weapon to be my go-to rifle system for a long time.

Here are a few of my ideas (thanks to pimp my gun):


LaRue Noveske 3 by mauser_leo, on Flickr


LaRue Noveske 2 by mauser_leo, on Flickr

Oh yeah, trying not to make this thing into a boat anchor.

[Mauser KAR98K]

Spoke to soon.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=sho...0&pagenumber=3

[amac]

Why not just order direct from Noveske. Flared lowers are available. Also, they can assist in registering your lower, keeping you from having to engrave.

[loganp0916]

I thought he wanted an SPR not SBR

[amac]

I thought he wanted an SPR not SBR

You're right. My mind is stuck on my sBr. . Either way, ordering direct seems a lot easier.

[loganp0916]

Yeah. I'd order direct too

[Dutchy556]

Here are my thoughts...

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Here are my choices I have narrowed down to:

Lowers
Noveske flared lower (when it comes out). Its out, I'd go with the Noveske
LaRue billet lower

Upper
Noveske
VLTOR MUR
Either, I'd probably go MUR, but they're both good

Trigger
Geissele S3G
Geissele Two Stage
Geissele DMR
Out of these, probably S3G - or look into a Super Dynamic. Maybe try and compare the 3 gun versions to the enhanced SD/SSAs and see what you prefer.

Barrel
Noveske SS
Noveske hammer forge
SS, lightweight SS if it's mostly for 3 gun, medcon if you're going to use it for precision more, IMO. Hammer forged would work fine too, but I'd go with stainless if it were me.

Length
14.5"
16"

My intent is to build this system here at home (with correct tools, of course). My other intent is to use the lower as a SPR. I think you're talking Recce more than SPR with those barrel lengths, but semantics aside... ETA: or do you mean using it with an additional SPR upper, in which case nevermind...

So, do I need to think about matching lower to upper receivers with the same company, are my choices compatible with each other all compatible, yes, don't worry about matching,

and what are the pros and cons of on what I have selected of all the components..? that's a lot to go over. search function is your friend..

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What I have settled on is the using Magpul's UBR stock, a LarRue Tactical free float rail system, and either an AAC blackout or brakeout with the intention of getting a suppressor down the road. For three gun I'd go with the brakeout

I'm looking for this weapon to be my go-to rifle system for a long time. Go-to or 3-gun? now I'm confused... Certainly not mutually exclusive, but if you're looking to abuse the crap out of it and do a lot of high round count training that might mean a hammer forged barrel would be a better choice

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Oh yeah, trying not to make this thing into a boat anchor. if that's the case you may want to reconsider the UBR and LaRue rails. UBR is stupid heavy, and the LaRue rails, while not crazy heavy aren't exactly light. Maybe look into a lighter tubular option like the Troy/VTAC TRX or DD MFR, or a DD Lite. Stock wise, A5 kit with an Emod would be a pretty good option for what you're wanting to do (in terms of effect on recoil impulse and being lighter than the UBR by a little bit). I have an A5 RE with Emod on my 16" Noveske bbl recce with 12" lite rail and it balances quite nicely

[Mauser KAR98K]

Dutchy:

I'm wanting this to be a multi-purpose weapon. I.E. 3-gun, training, Zombies, fun, and the like. So, I'm looking for a "working" weapon, not so much as a competition weapon (lord knows I couldn't keep up with the ammo count at my budget to REALLY compete).

I have thought about ordering a weapon from Noveske direct, but I really, really want to build one of my own and choose what I want in it. For me, and my monetary limits, I'd be better off ordering it and putting it together one piece at a time instead of ordering a complete weapon, and turning around and ordering everything else (like getting a 45 degree selector from Battle Arms) to get want I am wanting in a weapon system.

I'm going to start with the lower, upper, flash suppressor, and a few other things.

I'll look into the A5 Mod stock. I am trying to keep weight in mind, but the UBR has a whole package deal and looks easier to install (sling point, battery storage). The SPR will probably come at a later date, and could come with a different receiver, so I'm not hell bent on that total idea, but keeping it in the back of my mind.

Why the 16" of the 14.5"? I understand about being able to remove flash suppressors on a 16" because of NFA crap, plus the longer barrel for velocity factor. But part of me wants a legally short barrel weapon because of the "stuff happens" preparedness of me. I've searched on here and understand some of the argument, but it's coming down to personal preference, and I'm on the edge.

Can I order a hammer forged barrel from Noveske without ordering one of their N4 uppers to get it?

[Merle]

What's with all the zombie references?

[shootist~]

Stainless for accuracy.

Magnified optic with BDC, Mil or MOA reticle (or turrets) unless all your rifle stages are fairly short. Red Dots just don't compete if you are shooting 10" steel at 400+.