Hows this for training and fitness......

[Abraxas]

Sorry if this has already been posted. I searched and did not see it. While not necessarily this, I do think it is good to incorporate the tow together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOg25...layer_embedded

[comprido]

Well, if you've looked at the photos from the AARs of the classes discussed here, you'll see that many (most?) folks here really need to emphasize fitness (and wellness) and spend less time thinking about slide release vs overhand. (I kid.)

About the video -- My shoulders started hurting watching the high kettlebell swings. Tossing a kettlebell to partner has a high risk to reward ratio. I'm still thinking about the kettlebell presses while shooting. Kinda cool, I admit.

Box jumps again have a poor risk to reward ratio by themselves, never mind with a hot weapon. Good for tearing an achilles tendon (Dan John won't prescribe them anymore, which means something), and doing it with a pistol is stupid. I imagine if this was some random, unknown person doing this in a pasture, the forum would be all over him (hence the subtitles talking about the unseen safety measures.) Had Pincus missed his box jump (which is a possibility for any of us), I doubt it would have made it into the video

Overall, I think the tried and true workout followed immediately by shooting is more practical and safer for everyone.

[Abraxas]

Well, if you've looked at the photos from the AARs of the classes discussed here, you'll see that many (most?) folks here really need to emphasize fitness (and wellness) and spend less time thinking about slide release vs overhand. (I kid.)

About the video -- My shoulders started hurting watching the high kettlebell swings. Tossing a kettlebell to partner has a high risk to reward ratio. I'm still thinking about the kettlebell presses while shooting. Kinda cool, I admit.



Overall, I think the tried and true workout followed immediately by shooting is more practical and safer for everyone.

I agree with all of this, but especially the red

[Rob Pincus]

This idea has evolved quite a bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bxWUubQfBY

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While the first video was really just me and a couple guys having fun at the range, "FitShot" is an actual program that is being designed to let people interested in combining Crossfit type workouts with shooting do so in a methodical way.

FitShot Consists of:

Multiple functional movements that cover a variety of Biomechanical challenges which can be measured by time, Combined with a matching number of practical defensive shooting challenges that can be scored as a number of hits or misses, with misses carrying an appropriate time penalty.

-Rob

[Norone]

Once my ankle is back online I will be going that direction for my own growth.

[Jim D]

Well, if you've looked at the photos from the AARs of the classes discussed here, you'll see that many (most?) folks here really need to emphasize fitness (and wellness) and spend less time thinking about slide release vs overhand. (I kid.)

About the video -- My shoulders started hurting watching the high kettlebell swings. Tossing a kettlebell to partner has a high risk to reward ratio. I'm still thinking about the kettlebell presses while shooting. Kinda cool, I admit.

Box jumps again have a poor risk to reward ratio by themselves, never mind with a hot weapon. Good for tearing an achilles tendon (Dan John won't prescribe them anymore, which means something), and doing it with a pistol is stupid. I imagine if this was some random, unknown person doing this in a pasture, the forum would be all over him (hence the subtitles talking about the unseen safety measures.) Had Pincus missed his box jump (which is a possibility for any of us), I doubt it would have made it into the video

Overall, I think the tried and true workout followed immediately by shooting is more practical and safer for everyone.

I'll say it anyway. This is little more than some silly marketing and trying to create some new fad for ill-informed people to buy into.

If you want to do some dry fire after a cross fit work out, or run some sprints before a string of fire... that's a little different story.

Hanging upside down, doing reloads while hanging like a monkey... I couldn't care less who's face is on it, this is just plain stupid.

[6933]

I have been more than underwhelmed with Mr. Pincus in several areas. I'll simply say that I do not believe this training methodology will be seen at any TigerSwan, LAV, EAG, KD, KL, or other Tier 1 trainers.

[Rob Pincus]

You never know....

BTW- PM me your Definition to what constitutes a "Tier 1 Trainer", given that list, I'm intrigued.

[Jim D]

You never know....

BTW- PM me your Definition to what constitutes a "Tier 1 Trainer", given that list, I'm intrigued.

How about someone who'se done what they're advocating (ie: a combat shooter who has shot in combat, or a competition shooter who has won in competition).

[WillBrink]

Sorry if this has already been posted. I searched and did not see it. While not necessarily this, I do think it is good to incorporate the tow together.
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Wide range of vids where I have incorporate functional movement patterns/physical stress training with range work if interested:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list...5&feature=plcp

I tend to focus on job relevant movement patterns, best bang for the buck stuff, low risk/high reward stuff where possible, focused on unbalanced loading, with balanced movement choices to reduce injury potential and so forth. What I refer to as Practical Applied Stress Training. Also see article I had a while back in Tactical Response Magazine: Practical Applied Stress Training for SWAT

Although the above targeted to tactical LE, the approach works well for anyone or group.