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    Doesn't DPMS make tubes that attached to a proprietary barrel nut via epoxy?

    BTW the purpose of one of these in my application would be to save weight over an aluminum tube for a backpacking gun, not a go-to-war rifle. A CF tube will be lighter than any of the above-mentioned aluminum tubes, even more so when drilled with vent/lightening holes in the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    You're really overthinking this thing. Like I said before... the rail gadget is a Hogue rail cuff designed for free-float tubes. No doubt it's a silly device.

    The tube is probably held in place like other older style free-float tubes. IE, it is torqued onto a device that replaces the barrel nut and aligns with the gas tube. Pretty simply, really.
    Ah. I missed that in your reply about the Hogue piece

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfgk14 View Post
    I asked a question. No need to be an ass.
    Indeed. Not calling anyone an ass, but a reasonable alternative would be to inform him of the handguard, and then to suggest an alternative. Professionalism wins the day, and that is what sets us apart from everyone else.

    Although I do not know exactly what handguard is pictured above, in this case, I would suggest a PRI GEN III Carbon Fiber handguard, as it is a proven design, that offers the same free float capabilities as the one pictured above, however it has holes above where the gas tube is supposed to run in order to dissipate heat more effectively. It also has a much longer RIS attachment point along the top, allowing for a wider range of accessories, should you choose.
    Last edited by Panzerfaust; 08-25-11 at 18:40. Reason: To clarify that I do not know exactly the type of handguard pictured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panzerfaust View Post
    Indeed. Not calling anyone an ass, but a reasonable alternative would be to inform him of the handguard, and then to suggest an alternative. Professionalism wins the day, and that is what sets us apart from everyone else.

    In this case, I would suggest a PRI GEN III Carbon Fiber handguard, as it is a proven design, that offers the same free float capabilities as the one pictured above, however it has holes above where the gas tube is supposed to run in order to dissipate heat more effectively. It also has a much longer RIS attachment point along the top, allowing for a wider range of accessories, should you choose.
    The PRI handguard is over $300 and is quite heavy - the Daniel Defense MFR, Troy TRX/VTAC Extreme, Apex handguard, MI SS-Series, and Samson Evolution in the same length are all cheaper and arguably better quality.

    Heck, even the Daniel Defense M4 rail system is lighter than the PRI.

    There are better options!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfgk14 View Post
    A CF tube will be lighter than any of the above-mentioned aluminum tubes, even more so when drilled with vent/lightening holes in the top.
    This is simply not accurate. See my last post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    The PRI handguard is over $300 and is quite heavy - the Daniel Defense MFR, Troy TRX/VTAC Extreme, Apex handguard, MI SS-Series, and Samson Evolution in the same length are all cheaper and arguably better quality.

    Heck, even the Daniel Defense M4 rail system is lighter than the PRI.

    There are better options!
    Fair enough, I was just trying to suggest an alternative. Thanks for the useful information though, and I will look into those alternatives that you suggested.
    Last edited by Panzerfaust; 08-25-11 at 18:55.

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    EDIT: Double post, please disregard.
    Last edited by Panzerfaust; 08-25-11 at 18:54.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kfgk14 View Post
    Doesn't DPMS make tubes that attached to a proprietary barrel nut via epoxy?

    BTW the purpose of one of these in my application would be to save weight over an aluminum tube for a backpacking gun, not a go-to-war rifle. A CF tube will be lighter than any of the above-mentioned aluminum tubes, even more so when drilled with vent/lightening holes in the top.
    Plenty of solid proven aluminum handguards out there to ever make me want to buy a piece of shit like that. I'd run Magpul MOE before I ever put that abortion of a homebrew on a rifle. I don't care if it for going to war, backpacking, cool hi-def photos in the backyard, or stroking while one plays Modern Warfare XII (the HALO edition), a rifle is ALWAYS a defensive weapon before it is anything else.

    And if the manufacturer starts with "D" and ends with a woman's monthly cycle it sure as shit does come near my bang stick.

    Stick with proven gear regardless of the application.
    Only hits count......you can not miss fast enough to catch up

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    Quote Originally Posted by SWATcop556 View Post
    Plenty of solid proven aluminum handguards out there to ever make me want to buy a piece of shit like that. I'd run Magpul MOE before I ever put that abortion of a homebrew on a rifle. I don't care if it for going to war, backpacking, cool hi-def photos in the backyard, or stroking while one plays Modern Warfare XII (the HALO edition), a rifle is ALWAYS a defensive weapon before it is anything else.

    And if the manufacturer starts with "D" and ends with a woman's monthly cycle it sure as shit does come near my bang stick.

    Stick with proven gear regardless of the application.
    I've yet to see a barrel nut fail.
    Call me crazy, I don't think that's a common issue with the AR-15, regardless of manufacturer.
    It's a tube and a barrel nut, and some epoxy.

    I thought that the DPMS tube would work because I could drill holes in it easily and cut down on the weight, and I don't need to carry the weight of a rail on top of the weapon because the rifle will have a front sight base, not a low-profile gas block.

    If someone has a better suggestion for a carbon fiber tube that doesn't cost $300, I'll be glad to hear it.

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    Seems like you're set on your idea since you're ignoring others and don't seem to understand that composites are not necessarily lighter than metals.

    Go get your DPMS tube and have a nice day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kfgk14 View Post
    I've yet to see a barrel nut fail.
    Call me crazy, I don't think that's a common issue with the AR-15, regardless of manufacturer.
    It's a tube and a barrel nut, and some epoxy.

    I thought that the DPMS tube would work because I could drill holes in it easily and cut down on the weight, and I don't need to carry the weight of a rail on top of the weapon because the rifle will have a front sight base, not a low-profile gas block.

    If someone has a better suggestion for a carbon fiber tube that doesn't cost $300, I'll be glad to hear it.

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