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    Despite the flak this forum seems to generate when such admissions are posted, I have both a Colt and a DPMS M4, and both perform exactly as they were designed and intended to.

    Contrary to many armchair internet "expert" opinions, the latter will not disintegrate in your hands after 200 rounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPS View Post
    Contrary to many armchair internet "expert" opinions, the latter will not disintegrate in your hands after 200 rounds.
    That might change if you add another ''0'', and do it in a short amount of time.
    We miss you, AC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MPS View Post
    Contrary to many armchair internet "expert" opinions, the latter will not disintegrate in your hands after 200 rounds.
    Armchair internet experts? IraqGunz is an armorer that fixes and maintains fleets of ARs that are used daily in combat. He's probably forgotten more about the platform than most of us will ever know and he's kind enough to post his input on here for free. Ditto for the rest of the members with "Industry Professional/Subject Matter Expert" etc under their usernames. Say thank you and move on.
    Last edited by mkmckinley; 09-03-11 at 06:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkmckinley View Post
    Armchair internet experts? IraqGunz is an armorer that fixes and maintains fleets of ARs that are used daily in combat. He's probably forgotten more about the platform than most of us will ever know and he's kind enough to post his input on here for free. Ditto for the rest of the members with "Industry Professional/Subject Matter Expert" etc under their usernames. Say thank you and move on.
    Aptly put.

    IG has probably taught me more than any other single person on this site.
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    I'd say someone who goes against the vast accumulated real world experience here and declares victory after 200 rounds at the range IS the definition of armchair internet expert.

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    MPS,

    You are exactly the type of poster that I am referring to. You see, you are making a decision or spouting off an opinion based on the sample size of ONE AR (DPMS) that you own.

    Some of us here base our decisions off the sample size of HUNDREDS. On my last contract in Iraq I had 500 BM's under my care. I also had an opportunity to work on some DPMS guns and they were garbage.

    If you like your DPMS so much, then I have to ask why did you buy a Colt? After all there is no difference between them and with the money you saved you could have purchased more worthless stuff.

    I will almost be willing to bet that if I checked your carrier key screws (unless you have fixed them) they were not torqued and staked properly. I can almost guarantee that your castle nut wasn't staked properly (but that is hot or miss with DPMS).

    Your gas port is probably rather large as well.

    If you don't think that HP/MPI testing of barrels and bolts is important, then nothing we are going to tell you is going to change your mind. In addition the DPMS I looked at in country also did not have true 5.56 chambers. I posted at least one pic of M-guns reamer that I used in a DPMS chamber and what came out of it.

    I love when you guys come out swinging with the drama queen statements like "the latter will not disintegrate in your hands after 200 rounds" . No one here has ever said that. What we have said is that the lack of quality control and variances will lead to problems. The question is simply; when?


    Quote Originally Posted by MPS View Post
    Despite the flak this forum seems to generate when such admissions are posted, I have both a Colt and a DPMS M4, and both perform exactly as they were designed and intended to.

    Contrary to many armchair internet "expert" opinions, the latter will not disintegrate in your hands after 200 rounds.



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    As someone who has owned a DPMS and been very frustrated I have to thank IG and others on this site for the free education. What amazes me is folks are still buying that crap when you can get a Colt 6920 for $1,100! I wish I had know how big of a difference there was in the heavily marketed crap and the companies that use quality materials and have solid quality controls during manufacturing before purchasing a subpar AR.

    The price difference is negligible, the quality differences are know, and you can find top tier rifles everywhere. Go get one!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    BCM, DD, KAC.

    You'll have so much fun shooting them, you'll forget you have a wife, and kids.
    I belive the title of this tread is "what to AVOID"

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    Quote Originally Posted by shua713 View Post
    I belive the title of this tread is "what to AVOID"
    The implication was to avoid those brands because they're so good, you'll neglect your other responsibilities for the sake of shooting them.
    This isn't an illegal gun, it's an "undocumented protection device". Don't be so insensitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic_Salad0892 View Post
    BCM, DD, KAC.

    You'll have so much fun shooting them, you'll forget you have a wife, and kids.
    Showed that to the wife and got smacked

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