View Poll Results: What Lube do you use?

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Thread: What Lube do you use

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Mamma View Post
    Amen brother. I've always felt the same way. One test is worth a thousand theories. But, it's still just a test and rarely the "same thing."

    Joe Mamma
    If the salt Spray tests and multi thousand rounds "torture" test represent the "Extreme Environments" why wouldn't anyone NOT want them for THEIR environment? They all cost the same, and provide superior lubricity, and corrosion resistance regardless of the environment. Who would' want their Multi thousand $$$ weapon to have the best protection so it lasts the longest possible time???

    Everyone who posts on this should do themselves a favor and look at the tests that LaRue and MD Labs have done on their respective products. Then...try them like many of us have and you'll come to appreciate the actual experience we have for these and the inferior products like Militec, Tetra, and CLP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddackerman View Post
    If the salt Spray tests and multi thousand rounds "torture" test represent the "Extreme Environments" why wouldn't anyone NOT want them for THEIR environment? They all cost the same, and provide superior lubricity, and corrosion resistance regardless of the environment. Who would' want their Multi thousand $$$ weapon to have the best protection so it lasts the longest possible time???

    Everyone who posts on this should do themselves a favor and look at the tests that LaRue and MD Labs have done on their respective products. Then...try them like many of us have and you'll come to appreciate the actual experience we have for these and the inferior products like Militec, Tetra, and CLP.
    These backyard tests test one aspect -- protection. My point is, when evaluating a CLP, whether its FP-10, or BF, or WS or SLIP2000, or SLIP2000 EWL or anything else, when applied as directed on weapons that are: (a) maintained routinely, and (b) stored in less stressing environments than salt spray cabinets (I dunno about you, but I stopped doing that years ago ), they'll all pretty much provide good enough "protection". I'm more interested in how well a CLP lubes and handles heat, evaporation, things like that, than I am on how well they protect mild steel or crap HW store nails sprayed with salt water and left outside to rust. The backyard tests are interetsing, but let's not get wrapped around the axle over which one protects the mild steel the best.

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    CLP/Break Free for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavy Metal View Post
    I like the weapons shield and plan on ordering more. I love that cinnamon smell.
    +1
    The Weapons Shield CLP does all I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmart View Post
    These backyard tests test one aspect -- protection. My point is, when evaluating a CLP, whether its FP-10, or BF, or WS or SLIP2000, or SLIP2000 EWL or anything else, when applied as directed on weapons that are: (a) maintained routinely, and (b) stored in less stressing environments than salt spray cabinets (I dunno about you, but I stopped doing that years ago ), they'll all pretty much provide good enough "protection". I'm more interested in how well a CLP lubes and handles heat, evaporation, things like that, than I am on how well they protect mild steel or crap HW store nails sprayed with salt water and left outside to rust. The backyard tests are interetsing, but let's not get wrapped around the axle over which one protects the mild steel the best.
    Excellent post.I could not agree more about the corrosion tests.They are interesting and do give some information on what can be expected,or when to expect a problem.But IMHO these tests really only show the abilities or quality of the finish applied to the weapon during manufacturing...wheather blued,parked,anodized or in some cases painted.Relying on a oil film or chemical inhibitor that is sprayed or wiped on the surface to temporarily protect the metal from exposure to the elements for days/weeks at a time,without some kind of PM,is just asking for something to be damaged.
    The tests are not normal conditions either,that is unless you make a practice of leaving your weapons outdoors with no maintenance.
    Personally I need a product that can protect to some degree as well as act as an equally effective lubricant to ensure function and long term use of my weapons without undue accounts of failure and wear.
    To me thats what I would consider a balanced product.
    Now some of these products that show to protect from corrosion extremely well,most of the time,are not so good at lubricating moving parts in my experience.
    If I need just a protectant I will buy such,or take appropriate steps to ensure that my weapons are not exposed to hostile environments while in long term storage or unattended for great amounts of time.
    But Im not willing to sacrifice my lubrication needs for protection.I'd rather spend a few minutes a day doing PM on my toys if needed.
    That said,I was raised under the rule that "the sun never sets on a dirty weapon" and that it should be maintained after use before anything else was done.
    Weapons in storage get inspected and relubed at least every 90 days in my house...actually sooner if I feel the need.If a weapon is handled/carried it is at the very least wiped down before it gets put away.In the 30 years of owning firearms I have yet to have a issue with my PM routine while using even just an adequate gun lube.Heck I could probably just use olive oil as a protectant and never have an issue with my PM routine.I prefer a better lube though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddackerman View Post
    ...Everyone who posts on this should do themselves a favor and look at the tests that LaRue and MD Labs have done on their respective products. Then...try them...
    roger that

    larue machinegunners lube EDIT: Molybdenum suspension -stand alone lube- do not mix with other oils
    anyone have any more information?

    mad dog xf-7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shihan View Post
    What do you base the "it rusts worse than CLP" comment from? I know there is a couple of very informal tests floating around the net but I would like to see something more scientific than a backyard test. It cleans pretty well, it lubes pretty well as for rust I HOPE it works!
    Every test I have seen says it rusts sooner/more. I tested it under identical circumstances alont with half a dozen other lubes and it indeed exibited more rust than the Breakfree LP and CLP. It was a shade better than FP10 though.

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    I feel that WS lubes better than about anything liquid (non-grease) other than FP10. Both FP10 and WS produced a better feeling trigger in my new SIG 226 Elite. Other lubes did not affect it much. To do more than that would require equipment I don't have.

    Since I have a habit of DROWNING stuff in lube, I agree that protection isn't the biggest factor for me. Hence I like FP10, it is cheap and I can hose things with it

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmart View Post
    I've always wondered about the validity of those backyard tests. The steels used are vastly different than weapons-grade steels and the addition of the salt water doesn't really mimic real world conditions, at least for about 99% of the readers on this board.

    I'm not in the habit of storing my weapon in a salt spray humidity cabinet after I clean and lube it. I'll concede that it's an "acid test", but it doesn't really lend any insight into whether or not a protetcant is adequate for real world applications.
    For me, salt is a good test. My body chemistry sucks as far as my weapons are concerned. I have managed to rust Ruger's stainless with my sweat/fingerprints.

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    I have seen a lot of talk in this thread about "carbon just wiping off the end of the bolt" ect. when using certain lubes. Is there any one lube that will cut the carbon formation in the BCG better than the others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Every test I have seen says it rusts sooner/more. I tested it under identical circumstances alont with half a dozen other lubes and it indeed exibited more rust than the Breakfree LP and CLP. It was a shade better than FP10 though.

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    I feel that WS lubes better than about anything liquid (non-grease) other than FP10. Both FP10 and WS produced a better feeling trigger in my new SIG 226 Elite. Other lubes did not affect it much. To do more than that would require equipment I don't have.

    Since I have a habit of DROWNING stuff in lube, I agree that protection isn't the biggest factor for me. Hence I like FP10, it is cheap and I can hose things with it
    Ive been a long time fan of the FP-10 myself.Never had complaint about its lube properties...never had a rust issue either even though some online tests say its not a good protectant.Only complaint I ever had was that it seemed to evaporate off in about a month and wanted to migrate a bit to.
    I have to say that I jumped at the chance to try the new Weapon Shield when it came out because its formulated by the same man(George Fennell) who formulated/made the FP-10 from the start.Plus the fact that the Weapon Shield is a full synthetic with a more modern additive package.If I remember correctly Mr.Fennell said he worked on the new formula for two years.
    So basically its an improved and modern FP-10 formula.The Weapon Shield also has a slightly heavier viscosity base oil,which to me makes it stay put better and longer IMHO.
    Im also a "lube it somewhat heavy type."Ive always thought a bit more lube was the way to go and argued the point online with those who preached "apply and wipe dry."
    In fact I had an instructor at the TLETA a few years back jump me for lubing my pistola and not wiping it dry.He said I was making an oil slick on the weapons rack.Which was not true.
    Then later at Palmyra I had a instructor jump me for not lubing enough during some MP5 training.So I found a happy middle and have stayed with it.
    So I say if you have a system that works for you then stick with it.Same with a persons choice in gun lube.
    I think the most important factor in a weapons overall performance is how well its maintained and quality ammo.

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